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chris and i are talking to rosemary

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ellen gilly and she joined us for

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actually about a one hour session a

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couple of weeks back at the

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international ufo congress

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in scottsdale arizona near phoenix and

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we had a fascinating discussion and we

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briefly talked

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about the book that she and philip

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ambrogno wrote called the vengeful jinn

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and i have to caution you this is not

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about the stuff that you put in a bottle

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and drink

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although

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the legend does have something to do

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sometimes with something in the bottle

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doesn't it so i'm going to ask that

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silly question again rosemary kind of to

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bring us back where we were a couple of

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weeks back so listeners who didn't hear

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that show will know what we're talking

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about here the jinn is the legend behind

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the genie right it is yes

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the term gin means the hidden ones and

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it refers to a an ancient race of

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supernaturally empowered beings who once

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lived on this planet before we came

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along

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uh and

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they

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world into another one which in modern

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terms would be a parallel dimension

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they exist in a very ancient mythology

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and folklore as formidable beings who

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have the power to cause people a lot of

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problems and our book the vengeful gin

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is the case that we make for them being

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very active in the world today not just

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in remote geographical regions or any

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particular spot in the country but

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everywhere

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and that they have an agenda for wanting

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to interact with us some of them may be

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hostile and aggressive in terms of

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wanting this world back for themselves

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when you said that something just

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occurred to me which is how did we gain

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control if they're so powerful how do we

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supplant them or replace them first of

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all we have to know about them and uh

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they're very prominent in middle eastern

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folklore and mythology and even

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modern day superstitions and practice

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because they originated in very ancient

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lore in the middle east

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but they really didn't enter western

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mythology except through the magical

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tradition which isn't known to very many

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people

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and also they became kind of trivialized

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from our transformation of the arabian

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folk tales like aladdin and the magical

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lamp we think of them as genies in a

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bottle or a lamp they've always been

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portrayed well for the most part at

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least in the media as with a humorous

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twist uh entities that that have been

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imprisoned in these vessels and come out

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and have to grant you wishes but

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actually they are very formidable

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supernatural entities who have the

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capability of shape-shifting into many

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forms

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and interacting with us in a variety of

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ways and we believe that they take on

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the disguises of other entities so that

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many times we really don't know what

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we're dealing with and they can pursue

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their own agendas without us realizing

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it maybe i wasn't clear about my

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question here but what i'm saying is

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here you're saying this is an ancient

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race of beings that was here before

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humanity and then they went off to

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another dimension so the question i had

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and i'm trying to understand is how were

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they consigned to the other dimension

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can you answer that you want me to

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answer that will you go ahead phil

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because i've had a couple there oh okay

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well they were the stewards of this

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planet this dimension this physical

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physical existence they developed the

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technology according to the story they

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developed a um they became very powerful

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they warned among each other they

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polluted the environment they were on

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the verge of self-destruction now

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according to you know in the beliefs and

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the muslim beliefs and even the persian

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beliefs and these stories a higher order

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of being you can call them whatever you

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want extraterrestrials angels or

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whatever came down and stopped what they

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were doing and isolated them so the

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species would not extinguish itself and

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they were put sort of like in protective

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custody and most of them gave up the

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world and willingly went but some of

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them stood by and

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had a war against let's say the angels

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or whatever you want to call them higher

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order of being and um then finally they

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lost that war and they were isolated in

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this parallel dimension where they could

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do very little harm

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some of them interacted with human

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beings at one time in history

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especially during the time of king

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years ago or so five thousand years ago

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so the gin were more prominent and

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interacted with the human race

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uh there was more interaction

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and as time went on more of them became

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isolated from humans and

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the overall

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goal of most of some of these gin as we

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call the vengeful gin is that they don't

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like where they are

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and they'd rather be back in this world

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but if you think about it i mean this is

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almost like a lesson in morality

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the jinn became very powerful they

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polluted the planet they warned among

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each other they were on the verge of

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self-destruction it almost sounds like

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the human race at this point of time

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so that's the story and how they were

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taken human beings did not take them out

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did not isolate them even though human

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beings some humans were given control

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over some gin some gin were so powerful

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that they had to be imprisoned

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and this is where you get the idea of

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the the gin in the ring or the gin and

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the bottle encased by iron or in some

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cases jin

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in case imprisoned in certain caves in

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the middle east if that answers your

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one place i think that we should start

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is looking at the similarities between

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the whole concept of the jinn

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and the concept of

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lucifer and the fallen angels we have

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some very interesting parallels which

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you point out in the beginning of your

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one of the if not the um

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mastermind behind the the agenda and

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there are some very obvious parallels i

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would say between iblis and lucifer

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for instance um do you wanna let's look

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at the parallels between the

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judeo-christian sort of version

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um and and the the middle eastern the

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islamic traditions version and look at

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similarities and then look

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and see if we have an actual separation

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or if we're dealing with the same the

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same thing this is very important i

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think for our listeners to understand

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there is number one i think a separation

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between the two categories of of

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shape-shifting uh supernatural uh class

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of entities and

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um or alleged if you were for

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skeptics out there

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and i i think that we need to kind of

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give our listeners a sense of the

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distinction between the two and the

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similarities

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well i'm going to let rosemary

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afterwards

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i'll say one thing about it in islam

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there are no fallen angels

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the angels were made pure of the purest

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light so they're uncorruptable they have

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no free will

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the jinn did have free will

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and they um

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and and the devil

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is is a gin

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so you know i'ma let rosemary take it

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uh well chris there are some very

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important similarities and differences

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many people confuse the gin with demons

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ones that are interacting with us the

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most are

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hostile and aggressive and they're often

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called devils so people think they're

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one of the same but the gin are not

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demons

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the

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gin were absorbed into islam even though

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they pre-existed islam and the creation

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story that's told in the quran

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explains as phil just mentioned that the

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angels were created from pure spiritual

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light the jinn from smokeless fire which

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in modern terms would be plasma

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the angels were created from pure

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spiritual light the gin from smokeless

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fire which is plasma

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and then along came humans

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when god created humans he told the

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angels to bow down

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to them and the angels having no free

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but the leader of the jinn iblis who was

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in heaven

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refused he said human beings were not

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worthy they were less than him and he

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would not bow down

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for that god cursed him in his kind and

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cast them out i'll tell you what we'll

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get into more of this in a moment

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rosemary ellen guyley and brooke no

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we're talking about jinns

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and this is not a show about liquor i'm

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gonna keep emphasizing that's about very

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strange powerful supernatural creatures

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where we had to watch mosquito

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i thought it was wasps myself

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boy

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so go ahead chris okay uh yeah we're

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back in the saddle here i'm not sure how

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you pronounce the name of um zazzle but

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uh iblis i think is the other uh term

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that's applied to the once powerful

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angel that uh i think we were referring

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to before

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and one of the things that i find very

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interesting is

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the whole thing in leviticus 16 in the

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bible in verse 9 where god tells moses

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that his brother aaron

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should take two goats and sacrifice them

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one for the lord for sin and the second

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for azazel and

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this is one of our earliest real

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indications of a master gin if you will

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in terms of documentation in some sort

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of written down form and this is i think

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where as you point out in the book where

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the gin

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are often equated with desert areas

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because

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these uh atonements or these sacrifices

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were were sent out to the desert now

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this also brings up the classification

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of gin we do have gin that are a lot

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different than other gin according to

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the traditional knowledge and uh if one

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or both of you could comment on this

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very interesting classification system

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that has kind of arisen through the uh

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through the millennia of how the gen are

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actually divided into categories this is

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very fascinating phil do you want to

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take that one well yeah i can i can

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start on and you can finish it you see

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human beings know very little about gin

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and the only thing that we know is what

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we found out by accident some gin talk

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too much or some information leaks over

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at one time we knew much more about them

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than we do now but jin have families the

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family unit is small

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all the relatives belong to clans clans

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are ruled by powerful jinns and they're

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all ruled by jinn kings they have their

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own social structure they have their own

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accountability for example not all gin

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or evil in islam for example

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the evil jin are referred to as devils

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you have to remember you're like a human

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being there's many likes and many

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dislikes you're dealing with an

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individual and what people have a

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tendency to do when they think about gin

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they think about the entire race and and

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lump them all into one category and one

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mentality that's not true they're

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individuals you have psychotic gin hope

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you never run into one you have curious

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child like gin who are actually

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thousands of years old

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and you have very powerful noble gin

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which you very rarely interact with the

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human race but you see in the in in the

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old days in the in in the persian

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folklore if something was not an angel

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or angelic in nature and was not a human

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they were considered gin in between they

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started identifying that there are

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different types of gin and where you

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going you're in the country where

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whatever middle eastern country you go

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to you'll hear different names and that

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can be very very confusing because

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there's probably 20 30 40 50 different

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names for gin and it depends upon the

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country you're in but if you go back to

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the root of the persian belief they

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divide them into certain types of ranks

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for colors you'll see the early

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representations of these gin blue gin

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further away

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with blue skin but it really has nothing

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to do with the color of their skin it

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had something to do with with our

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identification of their rank

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which is very powerful and green gin

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which are very very young and yellow gin

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which are in between so the blue gin are

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the elders the very powerful ones that

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were around

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at the uh the fall of the gym that were

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around that remember the green gin are

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are less powerful most of them are young

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you see in

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the gym ranks the older they are you

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assume that the more knowledge they get

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they're not born with power that they

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can do anything like human beings they

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have to learn

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how to manipulate this power for example

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as we go to school and we learn more

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things we become more knowledgeable and

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more powerful ourselves but there are

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people who go through their entire life

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and they'll go past a high school

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education or sixth grade education in

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some cases and they never reach a

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certain level and they never seek

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additional knowledge

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the gin have to do the same thing they

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have

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probably training sessions schools and

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so on where they teach people how to use

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their abilities and they teach their

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people how to manipulate matter

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and energy and not all gin have the same

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power some are definitely

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more capable

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than others so

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you look at gin you know you have to

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look at them as individuals and not as

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as the sum of the whole as one mentality

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because

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they're not a question here philip do

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they look like humans are they human

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like or what i mean we think of the

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pictures we see of course

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in the movies of genie sometimes they're

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human sometimes they're

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as they say a little bit monstrous

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what's

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blue colored robin williams

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robin williams yes oh well that's that's

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the ultimate gin yes but you know you

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have to remember that

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gin according to

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the koran are actually made of smokeless

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fire which to me you know sounds like

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plasma which means they have really no

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form their form is seems to be contained

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by magnetic fields

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and they can manipulate the shape of the

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magnetic field to manipulate their shape

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they have the ability for example to

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take

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certain forms of matter certain forms of

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plasma certain forms of matter and

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change it into other forms and to us we

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understand this process today although

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we can't do it but back then the ability

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of a gin to do this was magic they could

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take on different forms but they can't

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hold forms the more powerful the more

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trained the gin is the longer he can

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keep a form or she can keep a certain

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type of form they can take the form of

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animals most of them will take the form

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of humans reptilian-like creatures

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monster-like creatures when they take

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human form most of them are very

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beautiful looking if they want to be but

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according to what i understand when i

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was in the middle east is that they have

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a problem with one form and that's

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maintaining the shape of the human eye

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jin eyes are yellow and they're almost

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snake-like they have one problem they

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can't hold the shape of the eyes and the

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eyes revert back to the gin so this is

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how they say how you can identify a

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human who is again sooner or later if

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you're around them long enough the eyes

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are going to flicker back and forth into

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a jinn eyes or maybe they'll always wear

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sunglasses well that's what i'm saying

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now i mean there are people walking

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around in the middle east you know

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wearing wearing sunglasses all the time

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like the terminator for example he had

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the red eyes so he wore the sunglasses

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so this is the same sort of thing where

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you know the gin they say are in this

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world in human form and they wear

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sunglasses so the people can't identify

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them even if people did i mean if you

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walk down to new york city and you're

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walking down in a very strange

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individual your eyes flash the yellow

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with people walk by you and they

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wouldn't even care well in new york

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there's so many weird people that it

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doesn't matter if somebody's an e.t it's

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a gin or or anything else it wouldn't

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make it

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a joke can you know

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interface with this world and especially

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in the united states and go unnoticed

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but in the middle east it's a different

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story i want to ask you more about this

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in a moment we have rosemary ellen lee

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phillip and brock now we're talking

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about the vengeful gin and why they're

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vengeful the co-host is chris o'brien

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i'm gene steinberg you're in the

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paracast

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ray perkins a reclusive veteran burned

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out from the gulf war

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lives tortured by relentless perplexing

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nightmares

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space and of a mysterious woman

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suffering in agony for her devastated

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we're returning with rosemary ellen

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guyley and philip and brogno we're

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talking about vengeful gins what are

664
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they here for are they real later on

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chris o'brien our co-host will ask the

666
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questions you listeners asked in the

667
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power cast forums at

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forum.powercast.com but i'll ask the

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obvious skeptics question okay we think

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of

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legends fanciful stories aladdin's magic

672
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lamp barbara eaton as i dream of genie

673
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so for people who don't believe in this

674
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kind of stuff how do you prove it to

675
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them rosemary you want to start with

676
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that i never try to prove the paranormal

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or anything supernatural to anyone

678
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because the skeptics will hold out and

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not believe until they have an

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experience that convinces them otherwise

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to people who sit on the fence i say

682
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well you can't really cherry pick the

683
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paranormal you can't allow yourself to

684
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believe in something like fairies or

685
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angels or even demons or ghosts then

686
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:25,760
feel that some other part of the

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paranormal couldn't possibly exist if

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we're going to study these entity

689
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encounters which clearly human beings

690
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have been having throughout our history

691
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then we have to be open to all

692
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possibilities our entity encounters are

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told through our mythologies and our

694
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folklore i think one thing that western

695
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people may have difficulty with

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concerning the gin

697
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is that the folklore never really became

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part of our western folklore it's middle

699
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eastern floor that

700
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still seems very remote and surreal to a

701
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:04,399
lot of people in the west but it's just

702
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as real as folklore about the fairies

703
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our ghost stories and our current

704
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mythology concerning extraterrestrial

705
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encounters i'll ask that obvious

706
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question does the gin have anything to

707
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do with what we perceive as ufos any

708
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:22,720
relationship well absolutely one of the

709
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things that we do in the vengeful gym we

710
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just lost chris again hang on chris did

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you make your wishes to the gym

712
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okay screw up wish number one i wish for

713
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a good connection

714
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you may not get it don't say that

715
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:39,440
we know this is interesting here

716
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:41,039
normally we only have occasional

717
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,799
problems with the technology you know it

718
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,159
doesn't matter what kind of technology

719
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:46,240
satellite whatever there are going to be

720
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:49,679
problems now chris is maybe 120 or 130

721
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:51,440
miles away from me and we normally have

722
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:53,200
a pretty good connection but today

723
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:55,679
always had troubles maintaining a good

724
00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:58,799
connection so but the point is here we

725
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:00,880
think of jyn

726
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:03,279
rosemary and philip i guess as

727
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:05,760
mischievous now are they just playing

728
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,320
pranks on us or maybe in chris's

729
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:10,399
parlance are they tricksters or they

730
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:12,880
have a higher purpose in mind there is a

731
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:15,360
significant trickster element to the gin

732
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:17,440
and from their very ancient folklore

733
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:20,000
they are renowned for being deceitful

734
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:21,679
tricky

735
00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:25,120
stealthy and looking for ways basically

736
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:27,279
to interfere with human beings and

737
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:28,720
undercut them

738
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,880
and of course if they are wronged they

739
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:31,919
can be

740
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:34,000
quite vengeful

741
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:35,679
and this is an element that exists in a

742
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:38,960
lot of our paranormal experiences across

743
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:40,960
the board well let's get back to the

744
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:44,000
historical um elements before we move on

745
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:45,840
and and kind of equate the gen into a

746
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:48,080
more modern context one of the things

747
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:50,480
that i've always been fascinated by are

748
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:52,960
the legends surrounding king solomon of

749
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:54,640
course the son of david

750
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who

751
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:58,080
it is said was able to corral the gen

752
00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:00,000
and was able to control them uh to the

753
00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:01,760
extent where they actually helped build

754
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,559
the uh you know the first real um

755
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,640
you know temple of jerusalem can we talk

756
00:31:11,510 --> 00:31:08,799
about that a little bit and how solomon

757
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:11,520
i think uh as a historical character

758
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:13,919
appears to be a crucial kind of

759
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:16,399
conjunction in uh belief systems between

760
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:19,360
the idealized western pop culture

761
00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:21,919
version and the more traditional islamic

762
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:25,279
version king solomon is one of the

763
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:27,840
main ways that the jinn entered

764
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:30,320
western folklore through the magical

765
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,000
tradition he's a

766
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,880
legendary figure and somewhat historical

767
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:37,200
there isn't too much uh really known

768
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:40,000
about him he was said to live about 1000

769
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:41,760
bc

770
00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:44,320
he was the second king of israel he was

771
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:45,760
the son of david

772
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:48,880
when he assumed the kingship

773
00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:51,840
god asked him what he would like

774
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:53,279
what sort of gift he would like and he

775
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,039
asked for discernment

776
00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:57,840
so god granted him great wisdom

777
00:32:02,470 --> 00:31:58,840
and

778
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:02,480
power because he was seeking discernment

779
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:05,120
rather than something to glorify himself

780
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:07,840
one of the things that he was able to do

781
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:09,600
was command the jinn and this was

782
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:11,840
through a magical ring that also was a

783
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:15,120
gift of god that enabled him to summon

784
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:16,000
them

785
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,279
is a magic a form of

786
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:23,120
command and control

787
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,279
and then he enslaved them to build the

788
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:27,600
temple of jerusalem and in some accounts

789
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:30,080
the entire city of jerusalem

790
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:32,960
for which they complained and felt they

791
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:35,919
suffered mightily and they were enslaved

792
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,600
until his death

793
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:39,600
the magic that

794
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:42,880
he is said to have used to control the

795
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:46,000
jinn became incorporated in a book

796
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,240
called the greater key of solomon which

797
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:50,640
does have some ancient roots going back

798
00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:52,880
to about the first century

799
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:56,240
ce and has been handed down throughout

800
00:33:02,149 --> 00:32:59,279
the centuries in various magical texts

801
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:02,159
called grimoires these are texts for

802
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:03,840
conjuring and

803
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:06,480
summoning spirits that's often

804
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:08,399
translated as spirits or angels or

805
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,679
demons in our western translations never

806
00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:13,919
as gin which was the original

807
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:17,320
and these are handbooks that um have

808
00:33:21,470 --> 00:33:18,960
astrological

809
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:21,480
uh information in them all of the

810
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:24,960
incantations magical seals symbols

811
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:27,679
uh and instructions for controlling

812
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:29,840
these spirits who were originally the

813
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:31,360
jinn well we have an interesting

814
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:34,159
parallel uh down in the maya traditions

815
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:37,679
of the uh lucas who supposedly were able

816
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:40,000
to build the temple of the magician at

817
00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:42,080
ushmal overnight

818
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,279
and uh do you see any uh with your work

819
00:33:48,789 --> 00:33:47,519
i mean obviously you've you i mean the

820
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,799
two of you are

821
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:50,399
pretty amazing in terms of the amount of

822
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,399
research you've done into these

823
00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:54,399
legendary type forms

824
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:56,240
that seem to be manifesting you know

825
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,640
today in the modern world to to

826
00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:00,720
a greater or lesser extent depending on

827
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,399
how skeptical you are

828
00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:05,039
but do you see parallels with

829
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:07,039
other uh traditional

830
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:08,800
systems of knowledge for instance the

831
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:11,359
maya and this uh this tradition of

832
00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:13,040
dwarf-like

833
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:15,679
almost gin-like entities being able to

834
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:17,200
build a whole temple

835
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:19,200
in a single night we see a lot of

836
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:22,079
similarities uh between the descriptions

837
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:23,919
of the gin and descriptions of other

838
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:25,760
kinds of entities

839
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:29,440
we've compared them to fairies demons

840
00:34:33,230 --> 00:34:30,800
shadow people

841
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,240
mysterious creatures

842
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,280
extraterrestrials and we're not saying

843
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:37,280
that these other entities don't exist in

844
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:40,879
their own right but the gin

845
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:44,240
could infiltrate among these entities as

846
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:46,000
a way of

847
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:48,480
trying to get back into this world

848
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:51,040
yet remaining hidden so there are some

849
00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:53,679
definite parallels and the question then

850
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is

851
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:56,399
how do we know

852
00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,079
uh what's what

853
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:00,720
how do we discern among the various

854
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:03,520
entities that we're interacting with and

855
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:04,960
these are some of the questions that we

856
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:07,200
wanted to raise with the book to get

857
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:08,640
people thinking

858
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,880
about the true nature of our

859
00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:13,040
supernatural encounters

860
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:16,240
and for the purposes behind them for

861
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:18,800
example considering the ets

862
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,359
we've got the ets who seem to be

863
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:23,359
abducting us and having

864
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:26,640
a hybridization program going on

865
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,040
well could the gin be involved in that

866
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:31,440
in lore they are capable of

867
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:33,680
intermingling with and and meeting with

868
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:36,320
human beings to produce offspring so

869
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:39,119
they could have their own program going

870
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:41,680
on but as a masquerade we're thinking

871
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:44,079
it's all et's and it may not be for

872
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,280
example

873
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:47,599
well you're both i mean admirable

874
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seasoned field investigators and i must

875
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:52,560
underscore that you're not just sitting

876
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in your armchairs

877
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researching arcane

878
00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:59,119
fact uh you know fact

879
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:01,119
if you can call them facts uh in the

880
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historical tradition um

881
00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:05,680
as field investigators going out into

882
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:08,079
the field now uh armed with this whole

883
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new set of research that you've really

884
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obviously

885
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:14,000
you know you've dove into the pool

886
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:16,880
uh of the gin and i'm wondering how do

887
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,040
you differentiate like let's say you go

888
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:22,320
out to a haunted site and and you have

889
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:25,599
inexplicable phenomena occurring and and

890
00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:28,960
potential entities uh in terms of uh you

891
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know your average interpretation how

892
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would you differentiate between a

893
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standard

894
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let's say

895
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a ghost uh that's some sort of residual

896
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:41,280
type of spirit or entity and and

897
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something that's conscious and

898
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self-determined lycogen before we have

899
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the answer to that question we have

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rosemary ellen guyley philip and brock

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you never know what's going to happen

1009
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next

1010
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we seek the gin or maybe we shouldn't

1011
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:25,839
seek the gin i don't know of course the

1012
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book is the vengeful gin from philippi

1013
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mbrogno and rosemary allen guiley and

1014
00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:33,200
before our break chris o'brien was

1015
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:37,520
asking a very long detailed question and

1016
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,760
i'll leave it up to philip and rosemary

1017
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:41,839
to decide who takes the question go for

1018
00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:44,000
it well if you go in the middle east

1019
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:46,400
they'll tell you that um there are no

1020
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:49,680
ufos there are no ghosts there are no

1021
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,160
demons there are no fallen angels there

1022
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:54,640
are only gin so how do you differentiate

1023
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,680
between

1024
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:57,680
other types of paranormal phenomena the

1025
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:00,640
gin well men are very crafty and they're

1026
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:02,880
very old and

1027
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:05,119
if they want to hide themselves there's

1028
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:06,640
no way that you're going to be able to

1029
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,520
identify them but like humans they have

1030
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:11,839
egos they have a tendency

1031
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:14,400
to after a while expose themselves for

1032
00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:17,119
who they really are most will engage in

1033
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:19,839
conversation after a while and if they

1034
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,839
think they have the upper hand over the

1035
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,760
poor human fool to human as their

1036
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:25,200
favorite game

1037
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:27,359
uh they will continue so this is one way

1038
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:30,319
that you can identify any type of gin

1039
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:32,400
activity now you have to remember they

1040
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:34,640
don't have one mentality if you're

1041
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:38,160
dealing with a with a psychotic gin he's

1042
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:40,000
acts psychotic it's going to act

1043
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,520
psychotic if you're dealing with a young

1044
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:43,920
gin it's going to act very childish many

1045
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:46,000
of the young gin according to legend

1046
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:48,079
like to appear in front of children and

1047
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:51,440
take on forms like what they expect like

1048
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:54,000
storybook characters and so on and so on

1049
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:55,599
and they always say you know we should

1050
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:57,680
take into consideration and take more

1051
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:59,680
serious childhood you know

1052
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:02,160
imaginary friends so-called imaginary

1053
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:04,000
friends

1054
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:04,960
so

1055
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,720
if you look at the entire paranormal

1056
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,640
it's very confusing i mean you have the

1057
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:10,560
ghost hunters out there you have the ufo

1058
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:12,000
people out there you have the big foot

1059
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:14,319
hunters out there and you know most of

1060
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,400
them don't agree with the other as to

1061
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:18,240
whether the origin of these phenomena

1062
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:20,800
but once you factor in the gin

1063
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:23,760
it puts in that element that

1064
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:25,040
sort of

1065
00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:27,839
makes it a little easier to understand

1066
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:29,839
and and i want to make it very clear

1067
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:33,119
that you know gin are not magical beings

1068
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:36,640
they are dimensional entities that use

1069
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:39,599
what we would consider the new ideas of

1070
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,319
physics to manipulate matter uh what

1071
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:44,560
they do and what they're capable of

1072
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:46,960
we're beginning to understand with new

1073
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:49,200
the new areas of theoretical physics so

1074
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:51,599
it's not too far from let's say the

1075
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:54,240
beliefs of anyone that they're yes there

1076
00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:56,800
are these other dimensional existences

1077
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:59,040
out there and and there's no reason to

1078
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:00,800
assume that some of them are not

1079
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,000
inhabited by intelligent beings

1080
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:06,720
now what the jinn call themselves we

1081
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,440
don't know that's the name we've given

1082
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:11,520
to the jinn it means the hidden ones

1083
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:14,079
because in the middle east in in the

1084
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:15,760
persian beliefs they thought they were

1085
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:18,640
invisible because they could not be seen

1086
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:20,800
only if they wanted to be seen

1087
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:23,680
but today invisibility may mean that

1088
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:26,160
they exist in a parallel dimension an

1089
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,960
area of space that we can't turn to see

1090
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:31,200
well let's let's uh kind of fast forward

1091
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:34,560
into into uh the present day and

1092
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:37,200
talk about uh your trip actually uh to

1093
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,800
the middle east phil where you had quite

1094
00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:40,400
a an amazing

1095
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,040
field trip out to a particular

1096
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:45,599
a particular location yeah why don't why

1097
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:47,440
don't you give us a sense of what it's

1098
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,640
like to go

1099
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,119
as a field investigator to you know a

1100
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:53,599
foreign land to a place that has an

1101
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:56,800
ancient tradition of being a kind of a

1102
00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:59,119
grand central station for these uh this

1103
00:45:01,589 --> 00:45:00,560
classification of entity why don't you

1104
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:01,599
give us a

1105
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:03,280
kind of a sense of what it's like to go

1106
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:05,760
chasing after them well that was not my

1107
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,119
original uh idea i was over in israel

1108
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:11,440
and i kept on hearing about the jinn the

1109
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,800
jin jin

1110
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:14,400
jinn this and i'm saying what the heck

1111
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,839
is a gin

1112
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:17,440
and i was thinking about people you know

1113
00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:19,040
oh yes the gin i was you know because

1114
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,800
you know i was interested in ufos back

1115
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,560
then and i was doing a lot of field

1116
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:25,280
research in the ufos back then and i you

1117
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:27,359
know so i just started asking around and

1118
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:29,920
making friends with people and so on and

1119
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:31,920
a lot of people are very friendly there

1120
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:34,079
and and they kept on saying gin and i'm

1121
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:36,240
saying and my first thought was you know

1122
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:38,000
like you know a late drink because

1123
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:39,680
people want gin what are they talking

1124
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:40,640
about

1125
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,680
then

1126
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:43,119
i began to realize they were talking

1127
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:46,880
about genies and of course being a dumb

1128
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:50,000
westerner i started laughing they took

1129
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:52,720
this like how could you be laughing at

1130
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,839
the gym they're very very serious you

1131
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:57,200
know i was thinking about you know

1132
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:59,440
barbara eden and you know robin williams

1133
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:01,359
and lavin's lamp and all that and all

1134
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,319
this you know uh arabian night stuff

1135
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:06,880
and and i began to realize that

1136
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:08,960
that you know the people over there took

1137
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:12,319
it very serious so to make a very long

1138
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:15,599
story short i was able to get into saudi

1139
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,000
arabia with no problem with some

1140
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,920
problems from israel it's a long comical

1141
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:21,520
story almost

1142
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:22,960
and um

1143
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:24,960
and i began to pick up more information

1144
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:27,599
on the gin i actually had dinner

1145
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:30,640
with a member and other people of course

1146
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:33,280
member of the royal saudi family and as

1147
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:34,960
i'm sitting at the dinner table with a

1148
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:37,040
friend of mine who i served with in the

1149
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:38,800
military who was

1150
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,200
a high ranking officer in the saudi

1151
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:43,440
royal family security force i was

1152
00:46:47,829 --> 00:46:45,760
sitting next to uh the cousin of the

1153
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:47,839
prince and so on the prince was supposed

1154
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:49,440
to be there but he didn't show up so the

1155
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:51,040
cousin showed up for the dinner as an

1156
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:53,359
ambassador and he looked over to me and

1157
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:54,640
he says you're an american what do you

1158
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:57,280
do in my country and i said i'm i'm

1159
00:47:02,069 --> 00:46:59,839
tracking down and researching gin i've

1160
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:02,079
got interested in it and he yells on top

1161
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,839
of his lung jin

1162
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:05,760
he says they are in my country so your

1163
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:08,720
government is trying to capture one

1164
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:11,200
they told me this amazing story about

1165
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:12,240
how

1166
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:14,079
there are governments of the world uh

1167
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:15,920
look at the saudi government the united

1168
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:17,920
states and european governments and so

1169
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:20,880
on they have special a special unit and

1170
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,240
they're out in the desert in these

1171
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,800
special operations and they're trying to

1172
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:26,319
capture a gin

1173
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:28,960
and because they know they know that gin

1174
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,839
travel through the dimensional barriers

1175
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:33,520
and they figure they're using some type

1176
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:35,920
of technology they want to capture one

1177
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:38,240
to obtain this technology now this is

1178
00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:39,920
not the first time that i've heard this

1179
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:42,640
story and i was really amazed

1180
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:43,839
and then of course he wouldn't talk to

1181
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:46,160
me anymore but he referred me to a holy

1182
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:48,880
man who was downtown and the other part

1183
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:51,520
of the poor part of this the saudi

1184
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:53,440
uh of riyadh

1185
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:55,520
and you have to remember there there are

1186
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,200
there are two classes of people the very

1187
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:59,119
rich and the very poor

1188
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:00,640
and uh

1189
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:02,880
this particular individual had a

1190
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:04,160
translator

1191
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:07,599
and he told me the entire history of the

1192
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:09,359
gym so

1193
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:12,000
from there i ended up in oman

1194
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:15,520
and uh ended up at a place called majas

1195
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,079
al-jin which means the cave of the jinn

1196
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,640
now the interesting thing enough

1197
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:23,520
originally that cave was called

1198
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:26,240
the meeting place or the the place of

1199
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:27,760
the goat

1200
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:30,400
and once again that ties in

1201
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:32,720
as hazel the goat god

1202
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:36,480
with the gin and so on and so on but in

1203
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:38,800
that cave um

1204
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:41,599
it's supposed to be where the gin enter

1205
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:44,240
our particular reality

1206
00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:45,359
and

1207
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:47,440
it's an amazing place i mean it's not

1208
00:48:53,109 --> 00:48:50,160
like a little cave the only way that you

1209
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:53,119
can get into it is from the top openings

1210
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,280
in the top and it's so large in there

1211
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:57,119
that you could fit the pyramid the big

1212
00:49:02,390 --> 00:48:59,920
pyramid at giza inside

1213
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:02,400
the cavern and still have room and this

1214
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:05,359
is how big it is so from the top of the

1215
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:08,720
opening to the bottom is like 350 feet

1216
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:11,280
and i had a guide and also my

1217
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,559
interpreter and i went down halfway down

1218
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,480
and they were up and they were they

1219
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:18,559
would not come in they said to me well

1220
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:20,079
here's what you hear

1221
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:22,000
here is where you must go alone my

1222
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:24,319
friend and i looked at them like

1223
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:25,680
give me a break i thought you were

1224
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:28,800
coming with me anyway about halfway down

1225
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:31,760
i hear them yelling and um and of course

1226
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:33,520
i can't understand what they're saying

1227
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,680
they're speaking arabic and but i heard

1228
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:36,960
the word jin

1229
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:38,079
and

1230
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:40,000
during that time

1231
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:42,160
i could swear in the cave i mean the

1232
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,319
echoing and everything i could swear i

1233
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:46,400
could hear a voice

1234
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:48,480
and i couldn't understand what it was

1235
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,240
saying but there was a green mist that

1236
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:52,240
was coming up from the bottom

1237
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:54,640
of the cave and rising up

1238
00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:55,839
and

1239
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:00,800
guide is gone no no you're hanging on

1240
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:03,280
belay i'm hanging i'm repelling down i'm

1241
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:06,000
about 150 feet down and they're up there

1242
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:08,240
screaming and i see this list coming up

1243
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:10,160
and i and i think i hear this voice

1244
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:12,160
that's speaking this language but i'm

1245
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:14,000
not exactly sure because it was echoing

1246
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,720
in the cave and they were rambling on an

1247
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:18,319
arabic up there and i didn't understand

1248
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,200
them but i heard the word gin so i look

1249
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:23,280
up and they're gone and i'm saying to

1250
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:25,760
myself i gotta get back up there so i'm

1251
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:28,240
climbing back up and i come to the top

1252
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:29,760
of the opening and they're running down

1253
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:31,440
the hill and i'm saying where are you

1254
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:33,520
going and my interpreter yells back he

1255
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,680
said the gin he says we have to get out

1256
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:37,520
of here and of course they're ready to

1257
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:39,440
jump in the jeep and take off and i

1258
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,280
would be left somewhere in the hot jar

1259
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:43,440
mountains all by myself an american so

1260
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:44,800
they wouldn't care they wouldn't care

1261
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:46,559
they'd abandon you

1262
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:47,599
they were they were going to take and

1263
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:49,200
take off in the jeep

1264
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:50,880
and i would leave me there they were so

1265
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:53,760
terrified so i ran down and caught up

1266
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:54,720
with them

1267
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:56,960
and got in the jeep as they were taking

1268
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,880
off and they were saying all these

1269
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:01,200
arabic prayers on the way back and

1270
00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:03,359
my uh my guide who came with me from

1271
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:05,119
saudi arabia he was a captain in the

1272
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:08,000
saudi army he was saying to me

1273
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:09,920
i never believed i heard legends i heard

1274
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:11,200
stories i don't believe but they are

1275
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:14,319
real the gin are real so we went back to

1276
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:16,400
the town of finn

1277
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:17,280
where

1278
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:19,200
the people were very upset

1279
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:21,040
our our guide

1280
00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:22,960
started telling them what happened and

1281
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:24,800
the people got very upset with me

1282
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:25,920
because

1283
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:27,200
they

1284
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:30,000
said that i woke up a sleeping gin i'll

1285
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,599
tell you what you woke up

1286
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:33,440
but we have to wake up our sponsors

1287
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:34,880
right now otherwise they're going to be

1288
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:37,440
very upset we have rosemary ellen guyley

1289
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:39,520
and philip and brock no i'm gene

1290
00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:42,079
steinberg the co-host is chris o'brien

1291
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,390
[Music]

1292
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,390
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1300
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1301
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:23,839
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1302
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:25,440
protect from counterfeit then carting to

1303
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:27,200
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1304
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:29,280
interest forcing taxes to service debt

1305
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:31,040
this capitalism or was jefferson correct

1306
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,720
when stating a central bank issuing the

1307
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:34,319
public currency is a greater menace to

1308
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:35,520
the liberties of the people than a

1309
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:37,280
standing army ted anderson i'm placing a

1310
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,480
free silver dollar in a book that

1311
00:52:42,109 --> 00:52:40,400
explains our monetary system call for

1312
00:52:44,230 --> 00:52:42,119
your copy

1313
00:52:45,870 --> 00:52:44,240
800-686-2237 it's time to understand the

1314
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:45,880
system call 800

1315
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,790
welcome back to the pear cast the gold

1316
00:53:06,790 --> 00:52:59,119
standard of paranormal radio

1317
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:08,549
okay if that's the kind of accent you're

1318
00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:09,839
doing chris

1319
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:11,599
i was trying to do an arabic accent

1320
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,000
accent but it didn't work don't quit

1321
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:16,400
your day job okay i think this is your

1322
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:18,880
day job so we're stuck with that

1323
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,200
rosemary ellen gilly philip and brogno

1324
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:23,280
we're talking about the gin and looks

1325
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,400
like possibly philip came up close and

1326
00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:28,800
personal to one of these creatures but

1327
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:30,880
at least she got out of there safely

1328
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:33,680
have you had any other close encounters

1329
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:34,880
of this sort

1330
00:53:40,829 --> 00:53:38,240
not me no i've encountered entities in

1331
00:53:45,589 --> 00:53:40,839
some of my investigations that

1332
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:45,599
uh we feel are quite certain are gin and

1333
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:46,960
you were asking a little earlier you

1334
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:49,440
know how do you know the difference and

1335
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:51,119
sometimes it's by a process of

1336
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:53,760
elimination it depends on the behavior

1337
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:56,079
of the entity the kinds of

1338
00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:59,520
things that it it acts out doing

1339
00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:01,520
against human beings

1340
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:03,280
they tend to be

1341
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:05,040
if they're powerful enough very

1342
00:54:12,549 --> 00:54:09,359
resistant to efforts to dislodge them

1343
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:12,559
or to exercise them

1344
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:15,760
they will engage in conversation as as

1345
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:17,680
phil mentioned

1346
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:20,640
we have some cases in our files that

1347
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:24,160
we've been tracking for quite some time

1348
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:26,319
people who are living in what we call

1349
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,359
paranormal hot zones or portal areas

1350
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:31,520
where there's a lot of different kinds

1351
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:36,000
of entity activities and it seems that

1352
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:38,720
gin are able to lodge in these areas and

1353
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,160
sort of have a

1354
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:42,240
foot in two worlds so to speak where

1355
00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:44,400
they're in their own dimension and yet

1356
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:45,440
they can

1357
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:49,359
have a territorial hold in ours they are

1358
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:51,839
behind haunting disturbances of

1359
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:55,119
tremendous magnitude they can

1360
00:55:00,790 --> 00:54:57,920
create ghost and poltergeist phenomena

1361
00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:00,800
they manifest as shadow people

1362
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:03,280
we get evp with them electronic voice

1363
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:06,480
phenomena mysterious lights mysterious

1364
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:09,599
creatures and uh entities that some

1365
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,480
people would say are demonic but they're

1366
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:14,559
we stress that you know demons are not

1367
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:17,440
the same as as gin

1368
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:18,400
so

1369
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:21,200
people think that they're really dealing

1370
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:23,599
with the money cases and in fact

1371
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:25,520
we've discussed these with our

1372
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:28,160
demonologist friend john zappas who's

1373
00:55:33,829 --> 00:55:31,440
one of the leading demonologists

1374
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:33,839
around he's been investigating for about

1375
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:36,319
30 some years and he has many cases in

1376
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:38,240
his files that people thought were

1377
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:39,839
demons but

1378
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:40,880
they just

1379
00:55:44,790 --> 00:55:42,480
fell into uh

1380
00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:44,800
an unexplained category because the

1381
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:46,960
entities didn't behave like demons and

1382
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:49,440
they couldn't be gotten rid of the way

1383
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:51,839
we usually get rid of demons

1384
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:52,720
so

1385
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:57,359
identify exactly what we're dealing with

1386
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,000
especially when you have

1387
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:02,640
a race of beings like the gin who can

1388
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:04,880
shape-shift into a variety of forms so

1389
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:07,520
they can keep changing their guys

1390
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:09,359
the fast question occurs to me here the

1391
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,079
gin is it all magic that they do things

1392
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:13,920
or do they have some kind of technology

1393
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:16,400
some innate technology that they use to

1394
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:18,160
accomplish this you know some kind of

1395
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:20,079
highly advanced technology that allows

1396
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:22,400
for the shape shifting and all the other

1397
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:24,480
crazy things

1398
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:26,319
well it's it's both

1399
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:28,319
but it's not magic

1400
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:31,200
they have certain devices and certain

1401
00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:32,960
the things um

1402
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:35,599
which which can manipulate matter and

1403
00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:38,000
energy to a certain degree

1404
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:40,880
uh for example like i said they have to

1405
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:43,119
understand they have to learn and

1406
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:44,880
they're taught the different

1407
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:48,720
arrangements of matter how how

1408
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:51,440
how strings create the elementary

1409
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:53,040
particles and how the elementary

1410
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:54,960
particles combine together to make

1411
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:57,520
protons and so on they just can't snap

1412
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:59,280
their fingers and gold appears and

1413
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:00,880
something like that they have to

1414
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:03,599
rearrange the strings and rearrange

1415
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:05,920
matter in order to change one form to

1416
00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:06,880
another

1417
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:09,920
now for the most part

1418
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,240
most chin most of the powerful gin and

1419
00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:14,720
the the advanced gen the

1420
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,400
the knowledgeable gin

1421
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,559
they have the ability because they are a

1422
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:20,880
plasma and they have a certain amount of

1423
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:22,880
energy in a magnetic field to actually

1424
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:23,599
go

1425
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:25,520
into solid and

1426
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,400
molecular structure and rearrange the

1427
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:30,480
atomic structure into something that

1428
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:31,200
they

1429
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:33,200
want to turn it into

1430
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:36,160
and um in the old days you know jyn

1431
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:37,680
would grab

1432
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,319
glass hold it in his hand and open a tan

1433
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:42,400
for the person and it would be gold and

1434
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:43,920
the person would say

1435
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,040
oh it's magic but you see today we can

1436
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:49,200
understand that one forward matter can

1437
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:51,920
be turned into another form by changing

1438
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,319
the vibration of the strings that make

1439
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,240
up the elementary particles in the

1440
00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:58,640
universe so we're actually catching up

1441
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:01,520
to the gin but see according to what i

1442
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,599
understand and heard in the middle east

1443
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:05,760
jhin are very

1444
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,480
very impressed with the human race

1445
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:10,640
for example

1446
00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:12,720
they're amazed that we can build things

1447
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:15,200
like computers and tvs

1448
00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:17,920
and that we're such limited beings

1449
00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:20,079
that we have this knowledge to do all of

1450
00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:22,240
these things now and actually they

1451
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:25,200
consider us a threat to a certain degree

1452
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:26,880
one of the things you have to remember

1453
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:28,240
that gin

1454
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:30,960
are plasma beings they're contained by

1455
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:32,799
magnetic fields this is what i'm

1456
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:34,880
assuming from what i'm hearing so

1457
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:36,799
they're very susceptible to

1458
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,200
electromagnetic pulses one of the

1459
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:41,520
reasons is that they're afraid that the

1460
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:44,079
human race is going to develop some type

1461
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:46,079
of technology which is going to affect

1462
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:49,440
them where they are and destroy them so

1463
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:51,599
this is why for example they're keeping

1464
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:54,240
an eye on us there are many people in

1465
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,079
the middle east and even in this country

1466
00:59:00,069 --> 00:58:58,720
who do believe that we're being spied

1467
00:59:02,470 --> 00:59:00,079
upon

1468
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,480
from a distance and watched for many

1469
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:04,720
many centuries watching us develop and

1470
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:06,480
keeping an eye on us so we don't get out

1471
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,040
of hand well that brings up uh you know

1472
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:11,280
a follow-up question that i had

1473
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:13,520
concerning a very tantalizing uh bit of

1474
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:15,680
information that you relayed in that

1475
00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:18,559
that there seems to be according to

1476
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:19,839
rumor a

1477
00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:21,920
uh concerted effort by the western

1478
00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:24,799
military i guess intelligence powers uh

1479
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:27,839
to capture a gin uh can you shed any

1480
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:29,599
more light on that particular assertion

1481
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:31,760
or oh yeah because you know when i was

1482
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:33,760
over in the middle east and not only did

1483
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:35,920
i hear it at the dinner table from a

1484
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:38,640
member of the royal family when i was in

1485
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:41,440
oman and finn and had in the hajjar

1486
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:42,400
mountains

1487
00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:45,200
in the village i encountered a person

1488
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:46,880
who spoke really good english he was a

1489
00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:49,520
teacher but he lived in oman he was

1490
00:59:53,349 --> 00:59:51,599
educated in the united states and he

1491
00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:53,359
liked to go hiking in the hajjar

1492
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:55,119
mountains which is very beautiful by the

1493
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:55,839
way

1494
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:57,040
and

1495
01:00:04,630 --> 00:59:59,760
he said one day he was hiking in a

1496
01:00:10,150 --> 01:00:07,030
a black portal open up and he saw a

1497
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:10,160
jania with her child a jinaya is a

1498
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:11,680
female jinn

1499
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:14,480
and according to to the beliefs there

1500
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:17,040
when a jinaya is with its child it's

1501
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:19,920
very protective he saw the janaya and

1502
01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:22,319
her eyes looked at him like you know i'm

1503
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:25,200
going to kill you if you you make a move

1504
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:27,520
and he became very terrified

1505
01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:30,640
and he ran now as he's trying to get

1506
01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:33,040
away he's running over the hill he says

1507
01:00:37,829 --> 01:00:35,200
jeeps came over and helicopters came

1508
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:37,839
over and he said they picked him up and

1509
01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:38,880
it was

1510
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:41,520
military men he said they were saudis he

1511
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:42,720
said they were

1512
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:48,400
they brought him to what he said an op a

1513
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:52,000
base of operations in in a in the hajjar

1514
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:54,720
mountains and they took him into a room

1515
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:57,119
and they debriefed him exactly what he

1516
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:00,480
saw where he saw it and he said he was

1517
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:03,760
more afraid of these individuals who

1518
01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:06,720
were humans than he was of the jedi that

1519
01:01:09,829 --> 01:01:08,559
he saw he wouldn't tell me much more

1520
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:09,839
information after that because he was

1521
01:01:13,829 --> 01:01:11,359
afraid they were going to come and get

1522
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:13,839
him if he revealed too much information

1523
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:16,640
but this is once again this is operation

1524
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:18,880
i'm hearing about governments of the

1525
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:21,280
world trying to capture a gin now all

1526
01:01:26,870 --> 01:01:24,640
from pine bush new york back in the 90s

1527
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:26,880
there was a lot of ufo sightings a lot

1528
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:29,359
of strange creatures appearing and also

1529
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:31,920
now one day and one evening it happened

1530
01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:34,240
on a number of occasions the military

1531
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:37,599
came in blocked off an entire area

1532
01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:39,280
knocked down the doors of people and

1533
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:42,880
told them to stay inside their homes do

1534
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:45,280
not come out people were looking out and

1535
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:46,480
seeing

1536
01:01:50,309 --> 01:01:48,799
helicopters coming down people all kinds

1537
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:50,319
of military

1538
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:52,720
vehicles coming up and something was

1539
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:54,799
going on they told them it was just a

1540
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:56,880
training exercise

1541
01:02:01,829 --> 01:01:59,520
now with all of that activity taking

1542
01:02:04,789 --> 01:02:01,839
place there in the hudson valley

1543
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:04,799
my contacts told me that this is before

1544
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:06,960
i went to saudi arabia that there was a

1545
01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:09,440
dimensional being transversing the

1546
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,680
dimensions in a portal in the pine bush

1547
01:02:16,309 --> 01:02:13,760
area and there was a special unit in the

1548
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:16,319
military that was specially trained to

1549
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:18,640
capture and take its technology so

1550
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:20,880
that's from three different sources that

1551
01:02:25,030 --> 01:02:23,760
i've heard in my own investigations i'll

1552
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:25,040
tell you what we'll pursue those

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investigations in far more detail as we

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reality of the vengeful gin with

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second hour of the show with rosemary

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01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:33,680
ellen guyley and philip ambrogno we're

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exploring the vengeful gin

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the legends of the genies supernatural

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beings from possibly a paramount

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dimension

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i'm gene steinberg you're in the power

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cast and we have co-host chris o'brien

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01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:46,559
who's going to pick up on the

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01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:48,559
questioning chris one of the things that

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01:07:53,910 --> 01:07:51,200
uh kind of comes through fairly

1684
01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:53,920
fairly loudly here is this whole idea of

1685
01:07:59,589 --> 01:07:57,119
the subterranean element with the gin

1686
01:08:00,390 --> 01:07:59,599
and the fact that it does appear that

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01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:00,400
they

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01:08:04,789 --> 01:08:02,240
tend to prefer

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according to the tradition subterranean

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spaces caves

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01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:07,520
underground

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01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:09,760
tunnel systems that sort of thing i know

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01:08:13,029 --> 01:08:10,400
phil

1694
01:08:16,229 --> 01:08:13,039
you were involved in digging into some

1695
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:16,239
uh you know pardon the pun into some uh

1696
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:17,839
pretty interesting cavern systems in the

1697
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:19,199
pine bush area that you were just

1698
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:20,880
talking about in the hudson

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01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:22,480
river valley area

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01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:24,560
and uh you did relate you know your

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01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:26,719
experience spelunking into one of the

1702
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:29,199
largest caves i think on the planet

1703
01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:30,719
correct me if i'm wrong

1704
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:32,799
what is the connection between this

1705
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:35,359
subterranean element that you find in in

1706
01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:38,480
fairy lore uh in other traditional types

1707
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:42,400
of uh lore that has to do with caves uh

1708
01:08:46,149 --> 01:08:43,679
what is the connection there do you

1709
01:08:48,070 --> 01:08:46,159
think well that's one for rosemary she's

1710
01:08:50,789 --> 01:08:48,080
more versed on that there are a number

1711
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:50,799
of connections at chris there's a very

1712
01:08:56,630 --> 01:08:53,520
strong association between gin and

1713
01:08:58,550 --> 01:08:56,640
ferries and in fact i think that this is

1714
01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:58,560
one of their favorite forms that they've

1715
01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,000
adopted

1716
01:09:04,709 --> 01:09:01,920
especially in the past because the

1717
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:04,719
fairies have a similar story they were

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01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:07,120
the original inhabitants of this earth

1719
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:10,159
and they lost out to human beings not

1720
01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:12,400
quite in the same way but the same

1721
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:14,640
result they lost out they lost their

1722
01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:17,199
place and they retreated to another

1723
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:20,640
place to live and for fairies this was

1724
01:09:25,110 --> 01:09:23,759
um another dimension that was accessed

1725
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:25,120
underground

1726
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:27,440
there were these openings and tree roots

1727
01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:30,960
and in mounds that led across this uh

1728
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:33,440
what seemed to be a magical threshold to

1729
01:09:39,110 --> 01:09:36,319
the parallel dimension where fairies

1730
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:39,120
lived all underground

1731
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:42,000
and time passed differently spaces

1732
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:43,199
opened up

1733
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:45,759
into small spaces would open up into

1734
01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:48,239
huge ways almost like the tardis and

1735
01:09:51,189 --> 01:09:50,159
doctor who you know you go into the

1736
01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:51,199
police

1737
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:53,759
box and it opens up into a huge thing

1738
01:09:59,430 --> 01:09:56,640
and we found in a lot of our

1739
01:10:02,310 --> 01:09:59,440
investigations that these portal areas

1740
01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:02,320
that are terrifically haunted and with

1741
01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:05,120
gin we believe

1742
01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:08,320
often have caves major sources of

1743
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:10,159
underground water

1744
01:10:16,630 --> 01:10:14,800
tunnels like old abandoned mine shafts

1745
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:16,640
and in lore

1746
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:19,440
these underground passageways have long

1747
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:22,400
been associated with transit points

1748
01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:25,199
between the spirit realms and our realms

1749
01:10:29,189 --> 01:10:27,280
that spirits have a way of traveling

1750
01:10:31,910 --> 01:10:29,199
through them and then of course we have

1751
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:31,920
the reptilian association

1752
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:33,679
reptilians which are lumped in with

1753
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:36,000
extraterrestrials a lot may not really

1754
01:10:40,709 --> 01:10:38,560
be ets but ultra terrestrials beings

1755
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:40,719
from another dimension and they're said

1756
01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:42,800
to live underground too of course like

1757
01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:45,199
snakes would because snakes have holes

1758
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:48,239
in the ground and the reptilians uh

1759
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:51,600
would be a favored form of the gin in

1760
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:53,520
middle middle eastern lore snakes are

1761
01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:55,440
one of their dominant shape-shifted

1762
01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:56,560
forms

1763
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:59,360
and so we have that uh connection there

1764
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:00,960
sort of linking the

1765
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:04,960
uh one kind of ultra or extraterrestrial

1766
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:06,400
to the gin

1767
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:09,120
uh to a shape-shifted form to an

1768
01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:10,560
underground

1769
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:17,510
considered to be like a parallel

1770
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:20,320
dimension to ours yeah magonia you know

1771
01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:22,640
borrowing the uh the title of jacques

1772
01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:23,679
valles

1773
01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:26,159
passport to magonia which is a i think a

1774
01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:28,239
french version of that

1775
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,320
other world or netherworld

1776
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:32,880
that has access points underground i i

1777
01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:34,400
must add that

1778
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:35,520
one of the

1779
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:37,360
largest i think it is actually the

1780
01:11:43,189 --> 01:11:40,239
largest cavern system in colorado

1781
01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:43,199
overlooks one of the most active portal

1782
01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:45,920
areas that i personally investigated so

1783
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:48,400
i've always been very intrigued by this

1784
01:11:53,189 --> 01:11:50,560
subterranean connection and you even

1785
01:11:55,590 --> 01:11:53,199
find it in bigfoot

1786
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:55,600
you know places where bigfoot tend to be

1787
01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:58,640
reported repeatedly also tend to feature

1788
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:00,800
sub-training cavern systems

1789
01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:02,800
um one of the things that i was struck

1790
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:04,880
by uh your book and i didn't know this

1791
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:07,360
when i uh prior to reading it is that

1792
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:10,239
they're in the islamic tradition and in

1793
01:12:14,229 --> 01:12:12,719
the traditional knowledge related to the

1794
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:14,239
gen in the middle east

1795
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:17,280
there are certain elements and certain

1796
01:12:21,669 --> 01:12:19,360
tools that tend to

1797
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:21,679
somehow exert control over these

1798
01:12:26,390 --> 01:12:24,560
entities and one of those is iron and i

1799
01:12:28,229 --> 01:12:26,400
found that to be very uh very

1800
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:28,239
interesting

1801
01:12:32,310 --> 01:12:30,400
scientifically i think that there may be

1802
01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:32,320
something to do with iron and magnetic

1803
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:33,679
fields and i think phil you might want

1804
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,159
to want to address this but what is it

1805
01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:38,640
about iron and and the ability to

1806
01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:40,159
somehow

1807
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:42,960
repel gin or control them with iron iron

1808
01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:44,960
special iron iron that's made from

1809
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:47,040
magnetite no less

1810
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:51,040
and um yes i mean gin were encased in

1811
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:54,000
brass bottles with an iron magnetic mesh

1812
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,040
around it keeping the gin neutralized

1813
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:59,360
you know um when there are fishermen in

1814
01:13:02,229 --> 01:13:01,199
the middle east uh when they put their

1815
01:13:04,390 --> 01:13:02,239
nets in

1816
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:04,400
um the arabian sea or where the wherever

1817
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:06,960
they are and they pull up an old bottle

1818
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:08,800
they throw it right back in because

1819
01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:10,640
they're afraid it might hold a very

1820
01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:13,360
nasty gin who was imprisoned

1821
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:16,640
so we see this um for example

1822
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,040
in paranormal phenomena for example

1823
01:13:22,870 --> 01:13:21,120
shadow people sightings and rosemary

1824
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:22,880
will probably say a little more about

1825
01:13:27,189 --> 01:13:25,520
this is that we found that when

1826
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:27,199
people turn on their televisions they

1827
01:13:31,030 --> 01:13:29,040
turn on all their lights and they turn

1828
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:31,040
on everything it the paranormal

1829
01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:33,360
phenomena seems to die down especially

1830
01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:35,040
the shadow people

1831
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:36,800
and uh you have to remember when you're

1832
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:38,560
using all these electrical things like

1833
01:13:43,110 --> 01:13:40,640
tvs and stuff you're generating magnetic

1834
01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:43,120
fields and it could be that you're

1835
01:13:47,350 --> 01:13:44,480
repelling

1836
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:47,360
these dimensional beings from entering

1837
01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:50,480
into your reality there so

1838
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:53,199
we go back once again to the legends and

1839
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:55,760
the legends in the mythology of the gin

1840
01:14:01,750 --> 01:13:58,320
say they can be contained and controlled

1841
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:01,760
by iron magnetic iron and today we see

1842
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:04,400
that in our modern technology that when

1843
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:07,360
we generate magnetic fields in the home

1844
01:14:11,110 --> 01:14:09,120
that is experiencing paranormal

1845
01:14:14,229 --> 01:14:11,120
phenomena and especially shadow people

1846
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:14,239
the phenomena dies down or disappears

1847
01:14:18,229 --> 01:14:16,000
so we're like turning on lights or

1848
01:14:20,229 --> 01:14:18,239
something just just the very action tvs

1849
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:20,239
and radios and so on right how many

1850
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:22,000
times we've come across this and heard

1851
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,840
this and of course over the years you

1852
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:25,760
don't put you know two and two together

1853
01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:29,280
until you once again take the gin into

1854
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:31,360
consideration and put them into the

1855
01:14:37,030 --> 01:14:34,159
equation of the paranormal right another

1856
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:37,040
another thing uh that i've noticed in

1857
01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:39,360
it's kind of a cross-correlation between

1858
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:41,840
you know a whole plethora of of

1859
01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:44,000
different types of phenomenal events

1860
01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:46,239
that have been reported down to the ages

1861
01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:48,159
one of the things that tends to be i

1862
01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:50,239
think consistent in is a correlation

1863
01:14:55,590 --> 01:14:52,159
obviously is the shape shifting aspect

1864
01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:55,600
but also the plasma aspect i think that

1865
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:57,760
is a very important uh

1866
01:15:02,550 --> 01:14:59,679
possible connection point between let's

1867
01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:02,560
say the ufo phenomenon for instance some

1868
01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:04,960
sort of spectral or ghost type phenomena

1869
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:07,280
and and the gin now

1870
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:10,560
let's look at this whole idea of plasma

1871
01:15:13,590 --> 01:15:11,760
and

1872
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:13,600
get into it a little bit deeper in in

1873
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:16,800
terms of how you can actually use a

1874
01:15:22,790 --> 01:15:19,840
plasma to transmute as you as you gave

1875
01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:22,800
the example glass into gold how can

1876
01:15:28,630 --> 01:15:26,080
something that has smokeless fire uh or

1877
01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:28,640
plasma how is it able to manipulate

1878
01:15:33,590 --> 01:15:31,440
matter to such a drastic degree i mean i

1879
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:33,600
wish i knew the answer to that

1880
01:15:37,669 --> 01:15:35,280
phil before we do the answer we got to

1881
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:37,679
do the break philimbrogno and rosemary

1882
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:40,239
ellen guiley i'm gene steinberg the

1883
01:15:46,260 --> 01:15:42,560
co-host is chris o'brien you're in the

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we're back with phil and brock imbrogno

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rosemary ellen guyley chris o'brien's

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the co-host i'm gene steinberg you're in

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the power cast where

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phil you're saying

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you're not able to really answer the

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question that chris posed well

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i could give you some you know

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you know spiritual etherical whatever

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01:20:37,830 --> 01:20:36,000
you want to answer but you know that

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01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:37,840
doesn't make sense but the only thing i

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01:20:43,350 --> 01:20:40,159
can tell you is that a plasma can

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actually interconnect with matter

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so unlike human beings that we can't go

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down and touch individual atoms

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a plasma contained by a magnetic field

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can spindle itself out to actually

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project part of itself into the very

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01:21:00,630 --> 01:20:57,920
core

2014
01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:00,640
of the elementary particles that make up

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01:21:06,390 --> 01:21:03,520
matter and rearrange them and now this

2016
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:06,400
may sound like magic but it's not but

2017
01:21:10,630 --> 01:21:07,760
once again

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01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:10,640
gin seem to have this ability but it's

2019
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:12,480
something they're not born with it's

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01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:14,080
something they have the ability to do

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01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:16,159
but they have to learn how to do it for

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01:21:20,630 --> 01:21:18,800
example in order to make gold from lead

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01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:20,640
let's say you know just an example out

2024
01:21:26,709 --> 01:21:23,040
of the blue they have to know

2025
01:21:29,189 --> 01:21:26,719
the exact arrangement of quarks

2026
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:29,199
and other elementary particles that make

2027
01:21:34,149 --> 01:21:32,320
up you know a nucleus of gold to make

2028
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:34,159
the gold they have to have this

2029
01:21:39,669 --> 01:21:37,199
knowledge and it seems from what i found

2030
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:39,679
out is that from a very early age like

2031
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:42,480
humans gin go to like a

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01:21:48,630 --> 01:21:45,840
training session school so to speak and

2033
01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:48,640
they advance as far as they want and if

2034
01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:50,320
they keep on learning all their life

2035
01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:52,480
they become more powerful able to do

2036
01:21:57,189 --> 01:21:54,880
more amazing things if they stop

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01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:57,199
learning at a certain age they

2038
01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:00,239
can do very little this is why some gin

2039
01:22:06,709 --> 01:22:02,719
are more powerful than others some of

2040
01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:06,719
them are more formidable than others so

2041
01:22:10,629 --> 01:22:08,880
and older too but the older they get we

2042
01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:10,639
imagine that the more knowledge they

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01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:12,639
obtain but that's not always the case in

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01:22:16,310 --> 01:22:14,080
human beings

2045
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:16,320
yes as you get older you acquire more

2046
01:22:21,350 --> 01:22:18,800
knowledge but with gin you know they're

2047
01:22:22,149 --> 01:22:21,360
capable of doing much more

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01:22:24,709 --> 01:22:22,159
and

2049
01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:24,719
they're not as limited but you see

2050
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:27,840
we also have an amazing ability to take

2051
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:30,719
matter and manipulate it by building

2052
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:34,400
things like computers tvs automobiles

2053
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:37,520
aircraft you see the gin look at this in

2054
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:40,400
our ability and and from what i hear and

2055
01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:43,120
understand they find it pretty amazing

2056
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:45,360
that human beings have come this far to

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01:22:50,149 --> 01:22:47,600
do this and of course they are a much

2058
01:22:52,870 --> 01:22:50,159
older race and human beings are a much

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01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:52,880
younger race so

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01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:55,040
they're afraid

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01:22:58,950 --> 01:22:56,880
and one of the fears they have is that

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01:23:01,110 --> 01:22:58,960
one day human beings will evolve more

2063
01:23:03,350 --> 01:23:01,120
powerful than they are and completely

2064
01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:03,360
wipe them out knock them out of out of

2065
01:23:07,910 --> 01:23:05,280
the game so to speak and that would

2066
01:23:10,229 --> 01:23:07,920
probably be due to you know accessing

2067
01:23:11,590 --> 01:23:10,239
and being able to utilize technology i

2068
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:11,600
would think that would probably be

2069
01:23:13,990 --> 01:23:12,800
something that they would be very

2070
01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:14,000
fearful of

2071
01:23:17,430 --> 01:23:15,600
here's another uh interesting thing that

2072
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:17,440
you bring up in your book and and

2073
01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:19,120
towards the end of the book you you talk

2074
01:23:25,030 --> 01:23:22,000
about portal areas and how they may be a

2075
01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:25,040
really important sort of litmus test to

2076
01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:28,400
uh to look at as an as investigators um

2077
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:31,199
to see if there's potential gin activity

2078
01:23:35,910 --> 01:23:33,360
there and you bring up the uh the

2079
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:35,920
infamous skinwalker ranch uh you bring

2080
01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:38,639
up the san luis valley and you also uh

2081
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:40,960
talk about the farm which you don't

2082
01:23:45,590 --> 01:23:43,360
actually identify where it is or

2083
01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:45,600
particular is about its actual location

2084
01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:47,440
but rosemary evidently for the last

2085
01:23:52,070 --> 01:23:49,760
couple years you've been pretty uh

2086
01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:52,080
zeroed in on a particular location

2087
01:23:56,310 --> 01:23:55,120
specific area in a rural a rural setting

2088
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:56,320
that has

2089
01:24:01,750 --> 01:23:59,280
just a bewildering array of paranormal

2090
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:01,760
phenomena my question is is that

2091
01:24:07,990 --> 01:24:04,400
bewildering array of phenomena a clue

2092
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:08,000
for you to potentially identify uh

2093
01:24:12,390 --> 01:24:10,960
gin activity yes absolutely they seem to

2094
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:12,400
be

2095
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:13,440
most

2096
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:16,880
noticeable in these portal areas phil

2097
01:24:22,149 --> 01:24:18,960
and i have been doing substantial

2098
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:22,159
research to document the characteristics

2099
01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:23,840
of portal areas

2100
01:24:29,030 --> 01:24:27,199
this case that i call the farm has been

2101
01:24:31,430 --> 01:24:29,040
ongoing now for

2102
01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:31,440
a little over a couple of years

2103
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:32,960
and

2104
01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:35,280
we give it a full chapter in our next

2105
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:37,440
book called multi-dimensional portals

2106
01:24:42,709 --> 01:24:39,920
which will be out in december

2107
01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:42,719
and we introduce it in the vengeful gin

2108
01:24:45,830 --> 01:24:43,600
it's

2109
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:45,840
in an area that i call the appalachian

2110
01:24:51,750 --> 01:24:47,840
doorway which actually starts in the

2111
01:24:53,510 --> 01:24:51,760
alleghenies in southwestern pennsylvania

2112
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:53,520
goes down through west virginia in the

2113
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:56,800
ohio valley and spills into ohio

2114
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:57,600
and

2115
01:25:04,229 --> 01:25:00,960
even on down into the brown mountains of

2116
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:04,239
north carolina that whole area down

2117
01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:07,920
there is very active with what i call

2118
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:10,960
broad spectrum paranormal phenomena that

2119
01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:14,239
is everything mysterious lights entity

2120
01:25:21,110 --> 01:25:17,920
contact ufos mysterious creatures ghosts

2121
01:25:24,390 --> 01:25:21,120
and poltergeist activity and

2122
01:25:27,350 --> 01:25:24,400
i think that it is one of the gen

2123
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:27,360
strongholds in america

2124
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:29,440
and i think that's the case in portal

2125
01:25:35,669 --> 01:25:32,960
areas around the world they could exist

2126
01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:35,679
where there are crossroads or nexus

2127
01:25:40,790 --> 01:25:38,400
points at ley lines for example or when

2128
01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:40,800
we have the right geophysical

2129
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:43,040
configuration

2130
01:25:48,870 --> 01:25:46,320
with negative magnetic anomalies and

2131
01:25:51,030 --> 01:25:48,880
the underground uh things that we were

2132
01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:51,040
talking about the tunnels and the caves

2133
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:53,040
and underground water

2134
01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:55,760
gin seem to like these areas and there

2135
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:57,520
may be something about the natural

2136
01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:58,560
energy

2137
01:26:02,870 --> 01:25:59,360
and

2138
01:26:05,830 --> 01:26:02,880
magnetic energy or absence of it that

2139
01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:05,840
enables them to pass between worlds with

2140
01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:08,880
more ease that seems to be the case with

2141
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:11,679
other paranormal entity manifestations

2142
01:26:16,149 --> 01:26:14,560
as well oh and bigfoot sightings are big

2143
01:26:18,629 --> 01:26:16,159
in this area too

2144
01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:18,639
so it's it's like a doorway where a lot

2145
01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:21,600
of things can come and go and for gin it

2146
01:26:26,709 --> 01:26:24,159
seems to be easy for them to

2147
01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:26,719
have this territorial anchor

2148
01:26:31,910 --> 01:26:28,800
this seems to be a characteristic of the

2149
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:31,920
gin in these cases there's a territorial

2150
01:26:36,550 --> 01:26:33,840
turf-mindedness

2151
01:26:39,590 --> 01:26:36,560
that manifests when the entity wishes to

2152
01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:39,600
communicate i'm older than you are i've

2153
01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:42,080
been here a long time i was here first

2154
01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:44,960
this is my place you're the squatters

2155
01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:47,440
and you're not welcome that message is

2156
01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:50,000
communicated over and over again in

2157
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:52,320
these cases that we've looked into every

2158
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:54,719
time you mentioned that that they once

2159
01:26:59,669 --> 01:26:57,440
had dominion over the earth and now we

2160
01:27:01,430 --> 01:26:59,679
control it more or less

2161
01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:01,440
in some half-hearted fashion

2162
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:04,159
unfortunately are they not able to

2163
01:27:09,590 --> 01:27:06,880
basically take control again not enough

2164
01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:09,600
numbers of them what well only a faction

2165
01:27:16,709 --> 01:27:13,120
of them uh are interested in being

2166
01:27:18,550 --> 01:27:16,719
aggressive toward human beings and

2167
01:27:20,470 --> 01:27:18,560
as phil mentioned earlier you know the

2168
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:20,480
gin come in all stripes the good the bad

2169
01:27:26,229 --> 01:27:23,040
and the ugly just like human beings

2170
01:27:28,629 --> 01:27:26,239
so in some cases uh we may be dealing

2171
01:27:31,030 --> 01:27:28,639
with either these psychotic chin or

2172
01:27:33,990 --> 01:27:31,040
these renegade gin

2173
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:34,000
the terrorist faction of them it may

2174
01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:37,120
also have to do with uh their ability to

2175
01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:39,920
manifest for any length of time in our

2176
01:27:44,390 --> 01:27:42,719
dimension and that's going to vary

2177
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:44,400
literally gin by

2178
01:27:51,030 --> 01:27:48,560
individual gin in terms of their power

2179
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:51,040
we've noticed in these these portal area

2180
01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:54,000
cases where the activity sort of rolls

2181
01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:56,480
in a roller coaster it'll crescendo up

2182
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:58,560
to a point and then it drops down again

2183
01:28:02,390 --> 01:28:00,960
it's like something having to recharge

2184
01:28:05,189 --> 01:28:02,400
its battery

2185
01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:05,199
so it indicates that whatever is present

2186
01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:07,280
can't act out in

2187
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:10,560
uh intense extreme ways all the time it

2188
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:12,719
seems to have to regroup

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so there's probably a whole lot of

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factors involved that um

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are dictating the ability of the gin to

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make inroads

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one of them

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that i think

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they're pursuing quite actively is in

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this phenomenon called shadow people i

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think these dark silhouettes who come

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and visit people in their bedrooms at

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night looking like

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tall men wearing coats and hats

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they're they're an unknown entity

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for the most part

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but i think that they're gin and i think

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that they are coming to

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try and get into our heads or into us

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our consciousness while we're most

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vulnerable sleeping

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and get information from us it could be

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biological neurological chemical genetic

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even our thought processes they want

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information from us that's going to help

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them

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become

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better able to live here

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well there's something here that doesn't

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let them live here is what you're saying

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and i want to ask more about that

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because i've become ever ever curious

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questions about

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gin society do they have presidents do

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they have emperors empresses queens

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your questions listeners chris has been

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assembling the ones posted in our forums

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at

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forum.powercast.com chris o'brien's the

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co-host i'm gene steinberg you're in the

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power cast so rosemary that's the kind

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01:34:30,149 --> 01:34:27,520
of question here what kind of society do

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the gin have do they have separate

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tribes nations etc do they have some

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kind of governing body policemen to

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protect against renegades from pulling

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mischief well they do have organizations

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and actually i'm going to pass that back

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to phil because he became very well

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acquainted with that when he was doing

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his middle eastern travels well the gin

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um you see they have they have clans

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they have a clan leader plan leader is

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responsible for all the families that

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belong to the clan if if a jin in a

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family gets out at hand the clan leader

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is responsible he has to answer to ajin

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king now jin have courts they're made up

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of clan leaders and if someone gets out

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01:35:17,270 --> 01:35:14,480
of hand breaks the jinn law they have to

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go in front of the clan's courts and

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sentences passed upon them and whatever

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01:35:27,030 --> 01:35:22,560
way but there are renegade gin for

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example in cases where a gin you see the

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gym

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they one of the reasons why some of them

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like to infiltrate into a world because

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they want to experience physical

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01:35:38,629 --> 01:35:35,679
pleasures again

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and sometimes a jinn may get out of hand

2366
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and come into our world and be doing

2367
01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:41,760
things that he's not supposed to be

2368
01:35:46,390 --> 01:35:44,320
doing he's not a renegade he's not one

2369
01:35:48,790 --> 01:35:46,400
of these outcasts who are psychotic that

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were that were exiled from from the jinn

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01:35:52,629 --> 01:35:50,400
community

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01:35:54,950 --> 01:35:52,639
is someone who's just curious but he's

2373
01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:54,960
breaking the gin law that's not not to

2374
01:36:00,070 --> 01:35:57,840
interact with human beings normally and

2375
01:36:02,629 --> 01:36:00,080
um the jinn will not give his prime

2376
01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:02,639
directive then right yes kind of like

2377
01:36:07,189 --> 01:36:04,560
the jinn will not give his name it will

2378
01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:07,199
try to hide who it is because if he find

2379
01:36:12,070 --> 01:36:09,040
out its name and they find out he's a

2380
01:36:14,470 --> 01:36:12,080
gin you could go and and try to contact

2381
01:36:16,229 --> 01:36:14,480
the clan leader to have him punished so

2382
01:36:18,629 --> 01:36:16,239
he won't tell you his name and what clan

2383
01:36:21,110 --> 01:36:18,639
he belongs to he'll try to put on this

2384
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:21,120
facade about who he is he could be an

2385
01:36:25,189 --> 01:36:22,960
extraterrestrial he could be an angel he

2386
01:36:27,750 --> 01:36:25,199
could be a demon or whatever you know he

2387
01:36:29,110 --> 01:36:27,760
could be a childhood fantasy character

2388
01:36:33,110 --> 01:36:29,120
or whatever

2389
01:36:35,669 --> 01:36:33,120
but they do answer to to to clan leaders

2390
01:36:38,550 --> 01:36:35,679
but there is the terrorists of the gin

2391
01:36:40,550 --> 01:36:38,560
that we focus in on the ventral gin they

2392
01:36:44,470 --> 01:36:40,560
were characterized as calling themselves

2393
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:44,480
the red gin now these are people who do

2394
01:36:48,629 --> 01:36:46,880
not follow any clans they're out there

2395
01:36:51,189 --> 01:36:48,639
they've been exiled from clans they

2396
01:36:53,109 --> 01:36:51,199
broke apart they do not follow any gin

2397
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:53,119
kings or any rules they are like

2398
01:36:57,109 --> 01:36:54,320
terrorists

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01:36:59,750 --> 01:36:57,119
they only follow iblis they worship

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01:37:03,030 --> 01:36:59,760
iblis they look at iblis as sort of like

2401
01:37:05,430 --> 01:37:03,040
a liberator a freedom fighter who's

2402
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:05,440
trying to establish them back into the

2403
01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:07,600
world where they belong to and they they

2404
01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:10,080
look at it this way suppose you you have

2405
01:37:14,310 --> 01:37:11,760
this beautiful house in beautiful

2406
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:14,320
property and then someone of the higher

2407
01:37:18,470 --> 01:37:16,320
authority let's say the government comes

2408
01:37:20,070 --> 01:37:18,480
in one day and says you're out of your

2409
01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:20,080
house and i'm putting somebody else in

2410
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:21,760
there and you're going to live in a

2411
01:37:26,390 --> 01:37:24,880
smaller place down the road i mean you

2412
01:37:29,109 --> 01:37:26,400
would look back at that house and say

2413
01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:29,119
boy i work so hard that's my house and i

2414
01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:30,960
want it back you see this is the

2415
01:37:37,270 --> 01:37:34,880
mentality as at some of these jim think

2416
01:37:39,590 --> 01:37:37,280
they believe in eminent domain then they

2417
01:37:42,229 --> 01:37:39,600
believe that it's their it belongs to

2418
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:42,239
them it was originally theirs and that

2419
01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:45,600
they wanted back and uh but you see

2420
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:47,920
there seems to be a higher authority

2421
01:37:53,109 --> 01:37:50,320
whether you want to call them you know

2422
01:37:55,590 --> 01:37:53,119
ascended beings or whatever your angels

2423
01:37:57,350 --> 01:37:55,600
or higher extraterrestrials or higher

2424
01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:57,360
dimensional beings whatever you want to

2425
01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:00,960
call them they seem to be afraid this is

2426
01:38:05,510 --> 01:38:03,520
who they have to answer to so one of the

2427
01:38:07,750 --> 01:38:05,520
things in islamic history is that the

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01:38:10,070 --> 01:38:07,760
gin infiltrate into our world trying to

2429
01:38:11,990 --> 01:38:10,080
get human beings to destroy themselves

2430
01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:12,000
so they could be held

2431
01:38:15,910 --> 01:38:14,080
unaccountable for the destruction of the

2432
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:15,920
human race and once the human race is

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01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:18,239
gone they can move back in chris we've

2434
01:38:22,590 --> 01:38:20,719
been assembling some questions here from

2435
01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:22,600
our audience at

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01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:24,560
forum.theparacast.com you have those up

2437
01:38:29,350 --> 01:38:27,520
i do okay let's start asking your

2438
01:38:31,189 --> 01:38:29,360
questions listeners now here's the way

2439
01:38:32,950 --> 01:38:31,199
it works when we know in advance and

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01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:32,960
sometimes we don't know we book a guess

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01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:34,960
the last minute when we know far enough

2442
01:38:38,310 --> 01:38:36,320
in advance that we're going to be

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01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:38,320
recording a segment with a guest or two

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01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:41,199
guests or more we will try to post

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01:38:44,270 --> 01:38:43,280
something in the question bank which is

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01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:44,280
at

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01:38:50,709 --> 01:38:48,239
can ask questions of guests and we ask

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01:38:52,750 --> 01:38:50,719
them as chris is going to do right now

2449
01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:52,760
okay this one comes from

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01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:55,600
rjhark00 i think he joined last month

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actually to the forum

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01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:58,960
and he has a very interesting uh

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01:39:01,510 --> 01:39:00,000
question

2454
01:39:03,990 --> 01:39:01,520
that may spark

2455
01:39:05,830 --> 01:39:04,000
i think uh an interesting answer have

2456
01:39:07,910 --> 01:39:05,840
the researchers made a connection

2457
01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:07,920
between the smokeless fire of the gin

2458
01:39:11,430 --> 01:39:10,480
and the burning bush episode in exodus

2459
01:39:15,910 --> 01:39:11,440
three

2460
01:39:18,870 --> 01:39:15,920
line twenty one the bush that is not

2461
01:39:21,109 --> 01:39:18,880
consumed by fire he

2462
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:21,119
goes on and puts his own thinking into

2463
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:22,800
it and says i think that the similarity

2464
01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:25,040
may underscore more widespread folkloric

2465
01:39:28,870 --> 01:39:26,639
or mythological

2466
01:39:30,790 --> 01:39:28,880
trope in the near eastern religions

2467
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:30,800
there are many indications of volcanic

2468
01:39:34,870 --> 01:39:32,400
deities being worshipped in ancient

2469
01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:34,880
northern arabia and southern palestine

2470
01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:36,400
they may have looked into this already

2471
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:37,440
but i thought it would be worth

2472
01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:38,800
mentioning so

2473
01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:40,480
could the gin have been responsible

2474
01:39:45,510 --> 01:39:42,639
and tricking moses uh with a burning

2475
01:39:48,229 --> 01:39:45,520
bush it sounds kind of plausible i guess

2476
01:39:51,669 --> 01:39:48,239
well we do address that and um the

2477
01:39:53,830 --> 01:39:51,679
pillar of fire and the burning bush and

2478
01:39:55,750 --> 01:39:53,840
uh it seems that the jinn have

2479
01:39:58,470 --> 01:39:55,760
interacted with the human race

2480
01:40:00,870 --> 01:39:58,480
throughout time in many different ways

2481
01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:00,880
it's very possible that some of these

2482
01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:03,600
ancient gods that were thought to exist

2483
01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:07,280
a long time ago in babylon and

2484
01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:10,480
and samaria and so on and some of the

2485
01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:12,800
mesopotamia and some of the ancient

2486
01:40:16,470 --> 01:40:13,760
areas

2487
01:40:18,310 --> 01:40:16,480
they could have been gin okay you do

2488
01:40:20,229 --> 01:40:18,320
address that in the book and that's uh

2489
01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:20,239
an interesting question i think someone

2490
01:40:24,149 --> 01:40:22,000
is out there thinking on the uh the

2491
01:40:26,070 --> 01:40:24,159
forums here's another one there's a

2492
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:26,080
belief that the incorrect practice or

2493
01:40:29,430 --> 01:40:28,239
over practice of various styles of

2494
01:40:31,430 --> 01:40:29,440
qigong

2495
01:40:33,350 --> 01:40:31,440
or you know it's a form of yoga can

2496
01:40:36,070 --> 01:40:33,360
induce what has been called

2497
01:40:39,990 --> 01:40:36,080
i'm not sure how to pronounce this

2498
01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:42,149
what is the word um

2499
01:40:50,229 --> 01:40:42,960
i'm

2500
01:40:55,030 --> 01:40:52,070
okay there is a belief that the

2501
01:40:58,310 --> 01:40:55,040
incorrect practice of xi gong can induce

2502
01:41:01,750 --> 01:40:58,320
what has been called qigong disease

2503
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:01,760
which is a form of induced psychosis

2504
01:41:06,149 --> 01:41:04,080
and i don't know where alzo our

2505
01:41:08,790 --> 01:41:06,159
questioner came up with this particular

2506
01:41:10,070 --> 01:41:08,800
fact but he said it is rumored to be

2507
01:41:12,470 --> 01:41:10,080
caused by

2508
01:41:13,830 --> 01:41:12,480
gin attaching themselves to the chi

2509
01:41:16,070 --> 01:41:13,840
created by the inexperienced

2510
01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:16,080
practitioner in effect possessing the

2511
01:41:20,709 --> 01:41:18,000
individual so in other words i think the

2512
01:41:22,390 --> 01:41:20,719
question is if you are an inexperienced

2513
01:41:24,149 --> 01:41:22,400
practitioner of

2514
01:41:25,510 --> 01:41:24,159
a form of energy manipulation like

2515
01:41:27,669 --> 01:41:25,520
qigong

2516
01:41:30,390 --> 01:41:27,679
could that potentially open you up for

2517
01:41:32,870 --> 01:41:30,400
possession of a gin well the gin can

2518
01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:32,880
possess people and

2519
01:41:36,310 --> 01:41:34,480
they do so like

2520
01:41:38,390 --> 01:41:36,320
phil mentioned to

2521
01:41:40,790 --> 01:41:38,400
experience

2522
01:41:43,109 --> 01:41:40,800
physical pleasure

2523
01:41:45,830 --> 01:41:43,119
and i think that there are various ways

2524
01:41:49,750 --> 01:41:45,840
the gin can attach

2525
01:41:52,629 --> 01:41:49,760
hesitate to put out an alarm that doing

2526
01:41:55,750 --> 01:41:52,639
um you know enter energy

2527
01:41:57,270 --> 01:41:55,760
and meditational practices could lead to

2528
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:57,280
to that i think there would have to be

2529
01:42:02,629 --> 01:42:00,080
something else involved for the gin to

2530
01:42:04,070 --> 01:42:02,639
latch on phil maybe you have some other

2531
01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:04,080
thoughts on that

2532
01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:06,880
well you know i know for sure that um

2533
01:42:11,270 --> 01:42:09,440
there are certain um meditation

2534
01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:11,280
techniques used in the middle east that

2535
01:42:16,390 --> 01:42:14,000
were thought to attract gin and i mean

2536
01:42:19,030 --> 01:42:16,400
if you're if you're manipulating energy

2537
01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:19,040
on a psychic level it may be like a

2538
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:21,040
spotlight or shooting up a flare to

2539
01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:24,560
attract the gin to come to you

2540
01:42:27,750 --> 01:42:25,280
now

2541
01:42:29,990 --> 01:42:27,760
gin do possess people

2542
01:42:31,750 --> 01:42:30,000
but they don't enter the body they

2543
01:42:34,550 --> 01:42:31,760
attach through

2544
01:42:36,550 --> 01:42:34,560
the nervous central nervous system

2545
01:42:39,510 --> 01:42:36,560
they're afraid of being trapped inside

2546
01:42:41,910 --> 01:42:39,520
the body so they can experience

2547
01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:41,920
everything that the body and the person

2548
01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:44,320
experiences but they can be separated

2549
01:42:46,390 --> 01:42:45,520
from it

2550
01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:46,400
and

2551
01:42:51,430 --> 01:42:48,719
this is how they experience

2552
01:42:54,229 --> 01:42:51,440
physical pleasure in our world but yes

2553
01:42:56,629 --> 01:42:54,239
also by the way they can get into the

2554
01:42:59,669 --> 01:42:56,639
body and cause physical illness by

2555
01:43:01,270 --> 01:42:59,679
breaking down the magnetic field in your

2556
01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:01,280
body in the electrical system in your

2557
01:43:07,750 --> 01:43:03,280
body knocking down your immune system

2558
01:43:10,629 --> 01:43:07,760
causing a number of diseases from being

2559
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:10,639
more susceptible to viruses to cancer

2560
01:43:16,470 --> 01:43:14,239
i mean this is um this is the danger of

2561
01:43:18,790 --> 01:43:16,480
you know gin possession

2562
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:18,800
and in the middle east by the way

2563
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:20,080
when a gin

2564
01:43:23,270 --> 01:43:22,560
possesses somebody they can't exercise

2565
01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:23,280
it

2566
01:43:28,149 --> 01:43:25,760
the clerical the holy man or the expert

2567
01:43:30,310 --> 01:43:28,159
comes over the exorcist comes over and

2568
01:43:32,390 --> 01:43:30,320
deals with the gin how long are you

2569
01:43:34,709 --> 01:43:32,400
going to be in that body how long will

2570
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:34,719
you stay and the gin will say i'll be

2571
01:43:38,310 --> 01:43:36,560
here two weeks and then i'll leave i

2572
01:43:40,390 --> 01:43:38,320
just want to experience a lot of

2573
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:40,400
different things and they say okay after

2574
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:43,360
two weeks you must leave the body okay

2575
01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:45,679
if he doesn't leave the next step is

2576
01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:47,920
they take sticks and they start beating

2577
01:43:53,669 --> 01:43:51,199
the body and causing physical pain

2578
01:43:55,109 --> 01:43:53,679
because the gin can feel it and the gin

2579
01:43:57,590 --> 01:43:55,119
will leave

2580
01:44:01,750 --> 01:43:57,600
so you know this opens up a whole you

2581
01:44:04,870 --> 01:44:01,760
know can no piano worms as to as to how

2582
01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:07,750
really affect human beings a reminder if

2583
01:44:11,870 --> 01:44:09,920
you have a question or comment about the

2584
01:44:14,229 --> 01:44:11,880
power cast write us news at

2585
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2586
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2587
01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:19,040
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2589
01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:22,960
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2591
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2592
01:44:32,629 --> 01:44:30,400
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2593
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back to the paracast the gold standard

2623
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2624
01:46:02,550 --> 01:45:59,189
this is our final hour of dealing with

2625
01:46:05,030 --> 01:46:02,560
the subject of vengeful gin and we're

2626
01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:05,040
asking your questions of rosemary ellen

2627
01:46:09,510 --> 01:46:07,440
guyley and phil and brockno chris

2628
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:09,520
o'brien's the co-host i'm gene steinberg

2629
01:46:14,229 --> 01:46:11,600
you're in the power cast chris you have

2630
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:14,239
some more questions from the forums i do

2631
01:46:19,990 --> 01:46:16,960
um before i go on to uh forum questions

2632
01:46:21,830 --> 01:46:20,000
though i i do want to um kind of dive in

2633
01:46:24,229 --> 01:46:21,840
a little bit deeper about this

2634
01:46:26,229 --> 01:46:24,239
connection between humans and gin

2635
01:46:28,470 --> 01:46:26,239
and whether these types of uh

2636
01:46:30,390 --> 01:46:28,480
connections can be induced by humans

2637
01:46:32,870 --> 01:46:30,400
there's a very interesting section in

2638
01:46:35,590 --> 01:46:32,880
your book where you talk about um

2639
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:35,600
aleister crowley and you talk about h.p

2640
01:46:40,229 --> 01:46:37,360
lovecraft and and

2641
01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:40,239
other individuals that that may have had

2642
01:46:44,870 --> 01:46:42,560
some sort of inside knowledge that

2643
01:46:47,830 --> 01:46:44,880
allows them to be in a position to

2644
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:47,840
inadvertently or by design uh establish

2645
01:46:52,070 --> 01:46:49,440
connection with jen

2646
01:46:54,070 --> 01:46:52,080
and one interesting instance that you uh

2647
01:46:56,950 --> 01:46:54,080
you note in the book uh occurred in

2648
01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:56,960
december 1909 when uh aleister crowley

2649
01:47:01,669 --> 01:46:59,520
and victor newberg his assistant

2650
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:01,679
were in algeria and they went out into

2651
01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:04,000
the desert to to conduct rituals for the

2652
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:06,880
purpose of accessing high-level

2653
01:47:11,350 --> 01:47:08,639
ethers i guess for the lack of a better

2654
01:47:13,750 --> 01:47:11,360
term in what was called in the 19th call

2655
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:13,760
of enochian magic now a lot of our

2656
01:47:17,350 --> 01:47:15,040
skeptics of course are going to be

2657
01:47:19,830 --> 01:47:17,360
rolling their eyes about this point but

2658
01:47:22,470 --> 01:47:19,840
having a a bit of a knowledge about

2659
01:47:24,070 --> 01:47:22,480
ritual magic and i know of course

2660
01:47:25,590 --> 01:47:24,080
rosemary has

2661
01:47:26,550 --> 01:47:25,600
quite an extensive knowledge in this

2662
01:47:28,709 --> 01:47:26,560
area

2663
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:28,719
what do you think of the whole idea of

2664
01:47:32,870 --> 01:47:30,880
actually manifesting

2665
01:47:35,510 --> 01:47:32,880
willfully

2666
01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:35,520
the gin and would you comment on this

2667
01:47:40,709 --> 01:47:38,080
very peculiar episode that crowley

2668
01:47:42,149 --> 01:47:40,719
and newberg supposedly allegedly went

2669
01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:42,159
through and now you know outside of

2670
01:47:48,629 --> 01:47:45,679
algeria i think it is indeed possible to

2671
01:47:52,390 --> 01:47:48,639
uh to conjure up the gin and there are

2672
01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:52,400
all sorts of magical procedures for this

2673
01:47:56,310 --> 01:47:54,320
in the eastern world

2674
01:47:59,669 --> 01:47:56,320
and some of these magical

2675
01:48:02,830 --> 01:47:59,679
uh incantations and

2676
01:48:05,510 --> 01:48:02,840
methodologies that infiltrated into the

2677
01:48:08,470 --> 01:48:05,520
western magical system

2678
01:48:10,629 --> 01:48:08,480
can do the same and these entities are

2679
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:10,639
not always called gin but they may be

2680
01:48:17,189 --> 01:48:13,679
one in the same and

2681
01:48:19,430 --> 01:48:17,199
i couldn't help but notice a lot of

2682
01:48:21,109 --> 01:48:19,440
similarities to

2683
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:21,119
lovecraft's work

2684
01:48:25,189 --> 01:48:22,560
the old ones

2685
01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:25,199
i think that lovecraft probably

2686
01:48:30,070 --> 01:48:28,159
had some knowledge of the gin which he

2687
01:48:31,350 --> 01:48:30,080
didn't formally

2688
01:48:34,310 --> 01:48:31,360
acknowledge

2689
01:48:36,350 --> 01:48:34,320
uh that became embedded in his

2690
01:48:39,750 --> 01:48:36,360
uh what he said was a fictional work a

2691
01:48:42,310 --> 01:48:39,760
necronomicon but may in fact have uh

2692
01:48:45,030 --> 01:48:42,320
drawn on something uh more real than

2693
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:45,040
that now the the case with aleister

2694
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:46,960
crowley

2695
01:48:51,830 --> 01:48:49,199
he was in contact with very high level

2696
01:48:53,669 --> 01:48:51,840
and very powerful entities

2697
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:53,679
which were called demons

2698
01:48:59,189 --> 01:48:55,920
but the term demon really doesn't

2699
01:49:02,550 --> 01:48:59,199
necessarily mean a satanic agency bent

2700
01:49:05,510 --> 01:49:02,560
on destroying the human soul

2701
01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:05,520
demons refer to a wide variety of of

2702
01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:08,800
entities that have the capability of

2703
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:11,520
interacting and interfering with people

2704
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:14,639
and that one episode in the desert coron

2705
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:17,040
where they uh conjured up this demon

2706
01:49:22,390 --> 01:49:19,840
corazon the demon of the abyss a very

2707
01:49:23,669 --> 01:49:22,400
powerful entity crowley went into a

2708
01:49:24,550 --> 01:49:23,679
trance

2709
01:49:26,950 --> 01:49:24,560
and

2710
01:49:29,750 --> 01:49:26,960
his assistant victor newberg was

2711
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:29,760
left inside the magic

2712
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:31,760
circle the protection in the magic

2713
01:49:38,149 --> 01:49:34,800
circle the entity was conjured into the

2714
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:38,159
magic triangle and in magic this is a

2715
01:49:43,430 --> 01:49:40,560
system set up to protect the

2716
01:49:46,070 --> 01:49:43,440
practitioner the entity is sort of bound

2717
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:46,080
into this circle and can't uh or the

2718
01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:48,880
triangle and can't move into the circle

2719
01:49:52,310 --> 01:49:49,760
but

2720
01:49:54,830 --> 01:49:52,320
it managed through shape shifting and

2721
01:49:56,550 --> 01:49:54,840
through um

2722
01:49:58,470 --> 01:49:56,560
invective uh

2723
01:50:01,510 --> 01:49:58,480
and and anger to

2724
01:50:04,310 --> 01:50:01,520
breach the magic circle and attack uh

2725
01:50:06,550 --> 01:50:04,320
newberg and the story's told that the

2726
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:06,560
two of them the entity in newberg

2727
01:50:11,189 --> 01:50:08,800
actually physically wrestled

2728
01:50:14,149 --> 01:50:11,199
and newberg was physically injured from

2729
01:50:16,310 --> 01:50:14,159
this while uh alistair was in

2730
01:50:18,470 --> 01:50:16,320
in this trance

2731
01:50:21,910 --> 01:50:18,480
situation and

2732
01:50:24,550 --> 01:50:21,920
eventually uh victor quelled the entity

2733
01:50:27,910 --> 01:50:24,560
and and sent it back out

2734
01:50:30,070 --> 01:50:27,920
um it was said afterwards uh that uh

2735
01:50:33,270 --> 01:50:30,080
aleister crowley was

2736
01:50:35,510 --> 01:50:33,280
forever affected by this mentally that

2737
01:50:39,189 --> 01:50:35,520
the the state of consciousness that he

2738
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:39,199
had to go into in order to make contact

2739
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:43,440
with korrenzon had sort of rendered him

2740
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:45,840
at least partially insane

2741
01:50:50,149 --> 01:50:47,840
for the rest of his life

2742
01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:50,159
and the various interpretations were put

2743
01:50:53,590 --> 01:50:52,560
on this that

2744
01:50:55,270 --> 01:50:53,600
maybe

2745
01:50:58,629 --> 01:50:55,280
it was a projection

2746
01:51:00,709 --> 01:50:58,639
and not an actual entity

2747
01:51:03,270 --> 01:51:00,719
you have to allow for the fact that

2748
01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:03,280
alistair crowley was an embellisher you

2749
01:51:08,550 --> 01:51:06,159
know and he did seem to have genuine

2750
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:08,560
magic magical talent

2751
01:51:12,310 --> 01:51:10,400
uh and

2752
01:51:16,470 --> 01:51:12,320
uh but yet he

2753
01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:16,480
he liked to be over the top too and

2754
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:18,400
but even if you take away that even if

2755
01:51:21,669 --> 01:51:20,880
you take away the um

2756
01:51:24,229 --> 01:51:21,679
the

2757
01:51:26,070 --> 01:51:24,239
embroidery that's probably uh in this

2758
01:51:27,189 --> 01:51:26,080
story you're still left with an

2759
01:51:30,149 --> 01:51:27,199
encounter

2760
01:51:33,030 --> 01:51:30,159
with this very powerful entity

2761
01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:33,040
which um bears a lot of resemblance to

2762
01:51:37,750 --> 01:51:36,000
jim yeah and i think newberg was you

2763
01:51:39,189 --> 01:51:37,760
know permanently affected by this i

2764
01:51:40,709 --> 01:51:39,199
think didn't he commit suicide if i

2765
01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:40,719
remember correctly or

2766
01:51:43,990 --> 01:51:42,000
i think he

2767
01:51:45,669 --> 01:51:44,000
he met some uh

2768
01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:45,679
pretty nasty ending if i remember

2769
01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:47,280
correctly it's been a while since i've

2770
01:51:49,990 --> 01:51:48,400
visited that

2771
01:51:51,589 --> 01:51:50,000
particular story

2772
01:51:54,149 --> 01:51:51,599
but uh

2773
01:51:55,990 --> 01:51:54,159
it seems to me that an encounter of that

2774
01:51:58,070 --> 01:51:56,000
sort would leave a lasting impression

2775
01:52:00,390 --> 01:51:58,080
and so it wouldn't uh it wouldn't

2776
01:52:02,870 --> 01:52:00,400
surprise me at all if if this could be

2777
01:52:04,070 --> 01:52:02,880
uh you know part of why crowley became

2778
01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:04,080
so uh

2779
01:52:08,870 --> 01:52:06,400
you know adamant about you know breaking

2780
01:52:10,950 --> 01:52:08,880
the back of the victorian age basically

2781
01:52:14,310 --> 01:52:10,960
um this kind of leads us into another

2782
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:16,470
close encounter cases such as the betty

2783
01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:18,480
and barney case uh of course betty and

2784
01:52:22,709 --> 01:52:19,599
barney hill

2785
01:52:25,189 --> 01:52:22,719
uh in the early 60s uh one of the

2786
01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:25,199
i guess sort of linchpin abduction uh

2787
01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:27,280
scenarios one of the first that we have

2788
01:52:31,189 --> 01:52:28,960
on record

2789
01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:31,199
that's fairly well documented blowfish

2790
01:52:36,070 --> 01:52:34,320
wants to know if uh if there is some

2791
01:52:38,709 --> 01:52:36,080
sort of connection between the abduction

2792
01:52:41,750 --> 01:52:38,719
phenomenon uh as it manifests in the

2793
01:52:44,229 --> 01:52:41,760
modern day um and the gin and we have

2794
01:52:47,669 --> 01:52:44,239
kind of basically touched on this but

2795
01:52:50,070 --> 01:52:47,679
looking at it from a pure uh field

2796
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:50,080
investigator point of view

2797
01:52:54,550 --> 01:52:52,560
do you think there are a percentage of

2798
01:52:56,550 --> 01:52:54,560
cases

2799
01:52:58,709 --> 01:52:56,560
that are been lumped into the abduction

2800
01:53:00,790 --> 01:52:58,719
scenario that are actually

2801
01:53:01,830 --> 01:53:00,800
some sort of contact with with

2802
01:53:04,149 --> 01:53:01,840
jin

2803
01:53:06,550 --> 01:53:04,159
well i think there are because from the

2804
01:53:08,629 --> 01:53:06,560
very early days of my investigation into

2805
01:53:10,870 --> 01:53:08,639
the ufo phenomena especially the

2806
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:10,880
abduction cases you see that there are

2807
01:53:15,589 --> 01:53:12,400
different types of abductions and

2808
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:15,599
contacts that make that is taking place

2809
01:53:20,390 --> 01:53:17,520
and you know i'm not saying jin are

2810
01:53:22,149 --> 01:53:20,400
responsible for all the ufo abductions

2811
01:53:25,030 --> 01:53:22,159
but they may be responsible for a

2812
01:53:27,390 --> 01:53:25,040
certain number for example you have

2813
01:53:29,750 --> 01:53:27,400
abductions that seem to be

2814
01:53:31,430 --> 01:53:29,760
extraterrestrial in nature and of course

2815
01:53:33,589 --> 01:53:31,440
we don't know if they are or not for

2816
01:53:36,390 --> 01:53:33,599
sure but you also have these abductions

2817
01:53:39,350 --> 01:53:36,400
that seem to be dimensional in nature

2818
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:39,360
where the beings are almost reptilian in

2819
01:53:44,229 --> 01:53:41,840
shape they seem to change shape they

2820
01:53:46,070 --> 01:53:44,239
seem to abduct people by taking them

2821
01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:46,080
through portals into and then they're in

2822
01:53:51,030 --> 01:53:49,280
a room and so on so all the abduction

2823
01:53:53,910 --> 01:53:51,040
cases are not

2824
01:53:56,629 --> 01:53:53,920
typical physical uh betty hill sort of

2825
01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:56,639
abductions and by the way betty hill i

2826
01:54:00,149 --> 01:53:58,080
knew very well

2827
01:54:01,990 --> 01:54:00,159
her very early abductions when i first

2828
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:02,000
heard the original tapes that were

2829
01:54:06,709 --> 01:54:04,560
played to me by john fuller of the

2830
01:54:09,109 --> 01:54:06,719
hypnotic session for barney and betty

2831
01:54:11,030 --> 01:54:09,119
hill i mean i was convinced right there

2832
01:54:13,750 --> 01:54:11,040
in the 80s that you know they were alien

2833
01:54:15,830 --> 01:54:13,760
abductions but later on you know it was

2834
01:54:18,470 --> 01:54:15,840
conversations that i had with betty on

2835
01:54:21,550 --> 01:54:18,480
the phone her contacts and and her

2836
01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:21,560
ongoing experiences seemed to be more

2837
01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:24,400
metaphysical or more dimensional in

2838
01:54:28,149 --> 01:54:25,360
nature

2839
01:54:30,310 --> 01:54:28,159
rather than physical extraterrestrials

2840
01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:30,320
it's hard really to place a finger on it

2841
01:54:34,629 --> 01:54:32,400
because

2842
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:34,639
her ideas and her contacts seem to be

2843
01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:36,800
more dimensional in nature as time went

2844
01:54:41,669 --> 01:54:39,040
on and you see this with a lot of people

2845
01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:41,679
who've experienced abductions after a

2846
01:54:48,790 --> 01:54:46,000
while their stories seem to be more like

2847
01:54:52,229 --> 01:54:48,800
ghost stories or or encounters with

2848
01:54:53,589 --> 01:54:52,239
demonic entities and and hauntings

2849
01:54:56,629 --> 01:54:53,599
rather than

2850
01:54:59,109 --> 01:54:56,639
visitors from another star system so i

2851
01:55:01,790 --> 01:54:59,119
imagine that a certain percentage of

2852
01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:01,800
abductions are from dimensional beings

2853
01:55:08,070 --> 01:55:05,040
ultra-terrestrials and of course ultra

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01:55:10,310 --> 01:55:08,080
terrestrials are gin that's that's what

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the folklore the legendary name for them

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is the book is called the vengeful gin

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2968
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precedences for this in the fairy lore

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where people stumble through that

2970
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doorway in the

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fairy wrath or house it was called the

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fairy lore if you stumbled into

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fairyland the odds were very slim that

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you would come out the fairies would

2978
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hold you captive there it's sort of like

2979
02:01:18,310 --> 02:01:14,719
a one-way doorway we can speculate that

2980
02:01:21,589 --> 02:01:18,320
some of the many cases of missing people

2981
02:01:23,750 --> 02:01:21,599
on this planet every year might be cases

2982
02:01:27,030 --> 02:01:23,760
where individuals fall through these

2983
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one-way trap doors into a variety of

2984
02:01:30,870 --> 02:01:29,599
parallel dimensions including the land

2985
02:01:33,430 --> 02:01:30,880
of the gin

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02:01:35,750 --> 02:01:33,440
and are either unable to find their way

2987
02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:35,760
back or perhaps they are prevented from

2988
02:01:40,470 --> 02:01:38,239
finding their way back or may be caught

2989
02:01:42,950 --> 02:01:40,480
in a time dilation and show up 20 years

2990
02:01:44,310 --> 02:01:42,960
later like rip van winkle

2991
02:01:45,030 --> 02:01:44,320
oh that's right

2992
02:01:47,669 --> 02:01:45,040
this

2993
02:01:50,070 --> 02:01:47,679
kind of brings me into a a very

2994
02:01:52,229 --> 02:01:50,080
interesting question from one of our

2995
02:01:54,470 --> 02:01:52,239
proud skeptics uh

2996
02:01:57,030 --> 02:01:54,480
on the forum trained observer calls

2997
02:01:59,189 --> 02:01:57,040
himself paranormally perplexed and his

2998
02:02:01,910 --> 02:01:59,199
question is ask phil just how much a

2999
02:02:04,470 --> 02:02:01,920
believer and that's italicized he is in

3000
02:02:07,510 --> 02:02:04,480
the gen legends from hearing him talk on

3001
02:02:09,350 --> 02:02:07,520
a recent radio show he had a

3002
02:02:11,430 --> 02:02:09,360
true believer sound to a lot of what he

3003
02:02:13,430 --> 02:02:11,440
was saying i've always had a lot of

3004
02:02:15,350 --> 02:02:13,440
respect for phil's work is this a case

3005
02:02:17,910 --> 02:02:15,360
where he has real evidence that has

3006
02:02:19,350 --> 02:02:17,920
persuaded him that these things are real

3007
02:02:22,390 --> 02:02:19,360
and the stories about them have some

3008
02:02:24,229 --> 02:02:22,400
validity and if so what is it i have to

3009
02:02:27,030 --> 02:02:24,239
tell you when people start talking about

3010
02:02:30,310 --> 02:02:27,040
interdimensional grudges and what have

3011
02:02:32,470 --> 02:02:30,320
you i wonder just how much or how this

3012
02:02:36,070 --> 02:02:32,480
information can be assessed to any

3013
02:02:40,470 --> 02:02:37,910
yes but this is something that i'm

3014
02:02:41,510 --> 02:02:40,480
working on to document the answer that

3015
02:02:44,390 --> 02:02:41,520
question

3016
02:02:47,270 --> 02:02:44,400
um i don't believe in the mumbo jumbo of

3017
02:02:49,189 --> 02:02:47,280
the gin you know all the um the islamic

3018
02:02:50,709 --> 02:02:49,199
stuff that's in the magic and the muslim

3019
02:02:53,510 --> 02:02:50,719
stuff that goes back to the ancient

3020
02:02:56,149 --> 02:02:53,520
persian times with the magical rituals

3021
02:02:59,750 --> 02:02:56,159
and all that there i'm a scientist but i

3022
02:03:02,470 --> 02:02:59,760
do believe that you know there is all

3023
02:03:03,669 --> 02:03:02,480
this phenomena manifesting into our

3024
02:03:06,709 --> 02:03:03,679
reality

3025
02:03:09,030 --> 02:03:06,719
and a great percentage of it is not just

3026
02:03:11,510 --> 02:03:09,040
the pipe dreams of an overactive

3027
02:03:13,189 --> 02:03:11,520
imagination of a board society people

3028
02:03:14,870 --> 02:03:13,199
are experiencing something people who

3029
02:03:17,589 --> 02:03:14,880
didn't even care about paranormal

3030
02:03:20,310 --> 02:03:17,599
phenomena are experiencing all of these

3031
02:03:23,189 --> 02:03:20,320
different things so it seems that there

3032
02:03:25,910 --> 02:03:23,199
is this other reality that's close to us

3033
02:03:28,870 --> 02:03:25,920
and there seems to be an intelligence in

3034
02:03:32,070 --> 02:03:28,880
this other reality that's close to us we

3035
02:03:34,709 --> 02:03:32,080
go back and we can find out that yes the

3036
02:03:37,430 --> 02:03:34,719
muslim people the persian people before

3037
02:03:40,070 --> 02:03:37,440
that they did believe in this other

3038
02:03:43,189 --> 02:03:40,080
reality and that it was inhabited by

3039
02:03:45,270 --> 02:03:43,199
beings so i'm saying right now is that

3040
02:03:47,189 --> 02:03:45,280
you know you have to open your mind to

3041
02:03:49,270 --> 02:03:47,199
it i'm presenting evidence and i'm

3042
02:03:51,270 --> 02:03:49,280
presenting stories and evidence that

3043
02:03:54,470 --> 02:03:51,280
i've acquired in the middle east and

3044
02:03:56,709 --> 02:03:54,480
rosemary and i have done in a lot of our

3045
02:03:59,430 --> 02:03:56,719
investigations into the gin and

3046
02:04:02,550 --> 02:03:59,440
attaching the folklore to modern times

3047
02:04:05,750 --> 02:04:02,560
and even paranormal phenomena in the ufo

3048
02:04:07,070 --> 02:04:05,760
phenomena with this idea of

3049
02:04:09,270 --> 02:04:07,080
dimensional beings in the

3050
02:04:11,030 --> 02:04:09,280
multi-dimensional universe

3051
02:04:13,430 --> 02:04:11,040
and um

3052
02:04:16,629 --> 02:04:13,440
you have to remember also that now it

3053
02:04:20,229 --> 02:04:16,639
sounds like mumbo jumbo magic a lot of

3054
02:04:22,790 --> 02:04:20,239
wide ideas and so on but the idea of a

3055
02:04:26,310 --> 02:04:22,800
dimensional universe may be our science

3056
02:04:29,750 --> 02:04:26,320
of the late 21st and 22nd century

3057
02:04:32,870 --> 02:04:29,760
back in the 1700s the idea of space

3058
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:32,880
travel would have been considered pipe

3059
02:04:39,430 --> 02:04:36,320
dreams and the ravings of fanatics

3060
02:04:42,709 --> 02:04:39,440
today it's a fact so i think the human

3061
02:04:45,510 --> 02:04:42,719
human race is once again on the verge of

3062
02:04:46,870 --> 02:04:45,520
a new awareness into the true nature of

3063
02:04:50,070 --> 02:04:46,880
the universe

3064
02:04:53,030 --> 02:04:50,080
and we just can't dismiss anything we

3065
02:04:55,510 --> 02:04:53,040
have to consider that the legends of our

3066
02:04:58,470 --> 02:04:55,520
ancestors some of it

3067
02:05:01,189 --> 02:04:58,480
reflected real experiences

3068
02:05:03,109 --> 02:05:01,199
i applaud that answer and that's uh i'm

3069
02:05:05,030 --> 02:05:03,119
taking notes because when i'm asked that

3070
02:05:07,270 --> 02:05:05,040
i want to be able to be as eloquent as

3071
02:05:09,109 --> 02:05:07,280
you were in uh in answering that

3072
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:09,119
question because that's really good you

3073
02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:11,920
should catch me on a better day

3074
02:05:16,390 --> 02:05:13,920
that was good though and as rosemary

3075
02:05:18,870 --> 02:05:16,400
knows uh as well as gene

3076
02:05:21,350 --> 02:05:18,880
by going out and being active in this

3077
02:05:22,709 --> 02:05:21,360
field and you know exposing yourself to

3078
02:05:24,870 --> 02:05:22,719
people that have had extraordinary

3079
02:05:27,270 --> 02:05:24,880
experiences you really have to be as

3080
02:05:29,270 --> 02:05:27,280
objective as possible and and the

3081
02:05:31,589 --> 02:05:29,280
question is whether you believe in the

3082
02:05:34,149 --> 02:05:31,599
gin legends obviously you don't believe

3083
02:05:35,109 --> 02:05:34,159
in them uh by literal definition but boy

3084
02:05:37,189 --> 02:05:35,119
you sure

3085
02:05:40,390 --> 02:05:37,199
take into account that this is a

3086
02:05:41,669 --> 02:05:40,400
cross-cultural phenomenon in terms of

3087
02:05:43,430 --> 02:05:41,679
various cultures have their own

3088
02:05:45,669 --> 02:05:43,440
descriptions uh that seem to be

3089
02:05:47,510 --> 02:05:45,679
describing something very similar so

3090
02:05:50,709 --> 02:05:47,520
it's not something that you can just

3091
02:05:52,629 --> 02:05:50,719
discount i think it does give us a a leg

3092
02:05:54,310 --> 02:05:52,639
up on an investigative process that

3093
02:05:57,189 --> 02:05:54,320
we're that we're going through here

3094
02:05:59,669 --> 02:05:57,199
another question that came up uh in my

3095
02:06:02,310 --> 02:05:59,679
mind has to do with

3096
02:06:05,189 --> 02:06:02,320
just the whole idea of what is the

3097
02:06:07,350 --> 02:06:05,199
tipping point the gin obviously have not

3098
02:06:08,870 --> 02:06:07,360
been able to you know going with the

3099
02:06:10,870 --> 02:06:08,880
assumption that there is some reality

3100
02:06:12,390 --> 02:06:10,880
behind this they haven't gotten to a

3101
02:06:16,229 --> 02:06:12,400
tipping point where they're able to

3102
02:06:19,189 --> 02:06:16,239
manifest control you know in a a large

3103
02:06:22,310 --> 02:06:19,199
way over humankind in human culture

3104
02:06:25,109 --> 02:06:22,320
but uh what do you envision is the

3105
02:06:28,470 --> 02:06:25,119
is sort of their goal in terms of trying

3106
02:06:29,589 --> 02:06:28,480
to regain control of of earth or this

3107
02:06:31,030 --> 02:06:29,599
reality

3108
02:06:33,270 --> 02:06:31,040
what do you think it's going to take for

3109
02:06:35,510 --> 02:06:33,280
them to actually get there is it the

3110
02:06:38,069 --> 02:06:35,520
human race annihilating itself and they

3111
02:06:40,310 --> 02:06:38,079
kind of win by default or is there some

3112
02:06:42,870 --> 02:06:40,320
proactive thing that they can do short

3113
02:06:44,629 --> 02:06:42,880
of that to uh to have control i think

3114
02:06:48,310 --> 02:06:44,639
there's two trains of thoughts with the

3115
02:06:50,790 --> 02:06:48,320
jinn society at one time jyn interacted

3116
02:06:53,270 --> 02:06:50,800
and coexisted with human beings on this

3117
02:06:55,510 --> 02:06:53,280
planet each respected the other space so

3118
02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:55,520
to speak and and there was some contact

3119
02:07:01,669 --> 02:06:58,560
back and forth i believe that some of

3120
02:07:03,910 --> 02:07:01,679
the more established gin hope that this

3121
02:07:05,990 --> 02:07:03,920
is going to happen again someday

3122
02:07:08,229 --> 02:07:06,000
but they have to wait to a point to

3123
02:07:10,550 --> 02:07:08,239
until the human race reaches a certain

3124
02:07:12,709 --> 02:07:10,560
level of understanding and development

3125
02:07:15,189 --> 02:07:12,719
because right now we would consider them

3126
02:07:18,229 --> 02:07:15,199
invaders but there is another faction of

3127
02:07:20,310 --> 02:07:18,239
jinn that only has one idea the only way

3128
02:07:22,470 --> 02:07:20,320
that they could come back in this world

3129
02:07:25,030 --> 02:07:22,480
is get rid of the competitors and that's

3130
02:07:28,550 --> 02:07:25,040
extinguish every human soul on this

3131
02:07:31,270 --> 02:07:28,560
planet or knock down the population to a

3132
02:07:34,069 --> 02:07:31,280
certain number and enslave us there are

3133
02:07:36,470 --> 02:07:34,079
many beliefs there are many beliefs over

3134
02:07:39,109 --> 02:07:36,480
in the middle east with not only clerics

3135
02:07:41,510 --> 02:07:39,119
and holy men but also people who are

3136
02:07:45,109 --> 02:07:41,520
involved with the sciences over there

3137
02:07:47,030 --> 02:07:45,119
that considered the dimensional idea and

3138
02:07:49,669 --> 02:07:47,040
believe it or not i mean it's almost a

3139
02:07:51,910 --> 02:07:49,679
scary thought there's almost the idea

3140
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that the chin are established beach

3141
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heads for an invasion and another thing

3142
02:07:59,589 --> 02:07:56,800
to keep in mind chris is we really don't

3143
02:08:01,750 --> 02:07:59,599
know the extent of their activities

3144
02:08:04,470 --> 02:08:01,760
among us because they are the hidden

3145
02:08:07,350 --> 02:08:04,480
ones and they're very good at disguising

3146
02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:07,360
themselves so we have probably only the

3147
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tip of the iceberg noticeable to us now

3148
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and in the most standout kinds of

3149
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examples and cases i'll tell you what

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we'll get into more of those cases and

3151
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more

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of this discussion about whether they

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are trying to do us harm right now we

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have rosemary ellen guyley and philip

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hembrogno it's the vengeful gin we're

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talking about the co-host is chris

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we have rosemary ellen guyley

3262
02:13:08,229 --> 02:13:05,760
phillenbrock no the vegetable gin is on

3263
02:13:10,470 --> 02:13:08,239
the table for discussion chris o'brien's

3264
02:13:12,870 --> 02:13:10,480
the co-host i'm gene steinberg you're in

3265
02:13:14,149 --> 02:13:12,880
the power cast now rosemary you had

3266
02:13:16,629 --> 02:13:14,159
started this

3267
02:13:19,189 --> 02:13:16,639
discussion about things they might be

3268
02:13:21,270 --> 02:13:19,199
doing to do us harm do you think any of

3269
02:13:23,350 --> 02:13:21,280
the conflicts we see around the world

3270
02:13:26,550 --> 02:13:23,360
are caused not by

3271
02:13:29,910 --> 02:13:26,560
our own warring nations or tribes but by

3272
02:13:32,790 --> 02:13:29,920
them it's certainly possible and we've

3273
02:13:35,589 --> 02:13:32,800
collected some cases that we also think

3274
02:13:37,030 --> 02:13:35,599
are the tip of an iceberg

3275
02:13:39,030 --> 02:13:37,040
in terms of

3276
02:13:41,910 --> 02:13:39,040
returning american

3277
02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:41,920
servicemen from the middle east who are

3278
02:13:44,870 --> 02:13:43,360
seem to be coming home with chin

3279
02:13:45,990 --> 02:13:44,880
attachments

3280
02:13:47,669 --> 02:13:46,000
and

3281
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:47,679
whether that just sort of happens to

3282
02:13:52,149 --> 02:13:50,320
them in the circumstances of combat or

3283
02:13:53,830 --> 02:13:52,159
whether

3284
02:13:56,870 --> 02:13:53,840
there are

3285
02:13:58,390 --> 02:13:56,880
our own mortal enemies who are able to

3286
02:14:00,229 --> 02:13:58,400
marshal the gin

3287
02:14:03,270 --> 02:14:00,239
in ways against us

3288
02:14:04,550 --> 02:14:03,280
remains to be known but i suspect that

3289
02:14:06,790 --> 02:14:04,560
it happens

3290
02:14:08,229 --> 02:14:06,800
more than we realize and of course some

3291
02:14:10,390 --> 02:14:08,239
of the servicemen who come home with

3292
02:14:13,510 --> 02:14:10,400
lots of trauma there are a lot of things

3293
02:14:15,990 --> 02:14:13,520
going on in addition to to what seemed

3294
02:14:18,550 --> 02:14:16,000
to be gin attachments but they could

3295
02:14:21,189 --> 02:14:18,560
certainly be taking advantage of a lot

3296
02:14:24,390 --> 02:14:21,199
of our natural conflicts we have to be

3297
02:14:27,430 --> 02:14:24,400
open to the speculation that there are

3298
02:14:28,470 --> 02:14:27,440
human forces and agencies who are able

3299
02:14:31,350 --> 02:14:28,480
to

3300
02:14:34,629 --> 02:14:31,360
collaborate with the gin or even

3301
02:14:37,109 --> 02:14:34,639
co-optogen in some way to work for them

3302
02:14:39,109 --> 02:14:37,119
sort of as invisible mercenary forces

3303
02:14:41,270 --> 02:14:39,119
wow that brings up a very interesting

3304
02:14:43,109 --> 02:14:41,280
point and uh one that i raised in my

3305
02:14:45,350 --> 02:14:43,119
book stalking the tricksters and that is

3306
02:14:47,270 --> 02:14:45,360
that there seems to be a

3307
02:14:49,430 --> 02:14:47,280
kind of a school of thought in the

3308
02:14:51,830 --> 02:14:49,440
middle east that you know this

3309
02:14:53,910 --> 02:14:51,840
western aggression uh that appears to be

3310
02:14:54,870 --> 02:14:53,920
going on as we speak right now look at

3311
02:14:56,709 --> 02:14:54,880
libya

3312
02:14:59,669 --> 02:14:56,719
western aggression in the middle east

3313
02:15:01,990 --> 02:14:59,679
may be gin inspired uh

3314
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:02,000
i think that there's i'm

3315
02:15:07,669 --> 02:15:04,320
let's put it this way i think that uh i

3316
02:15:09,830 --> 02:15:07,679
it wouldn't uh surprise me if a fair

3317
02:15:12,709 --> 02:15:09,840
number of people in the middle east that

3318
02:15:14,629 --> 02:15:12,719
that believe in the gin and have a you

3319
02:15:17,350 --> 02:15:14,639
know a deeper understanding of the

3320
02:15:19,669 --> 02:15:17,360
concept than we do in the west would

3321
02:15:22,709 --> 02:15:19,679
equate gin activity to

3322
02:15:25,189 --> 02:15:22,719
you know the type of uh political strife

3323
02:15:27,589 --> 02:15:25,199
that has been instigated by the western

3324
02:15:30,629 --> 02:15:27,599
powers in the middle east now i know

3325
02:15:33,030 --> 02:15:30,639
that's an overly simplistic uh

3326
02:15:35,669 --> 02:15:33,040
kind of hypothesis but what do you think

3327
02:15:36,550 --> 02:15:35,679
of that i mean phil you were over there

3328
02:15:37,910 --> 02:15:36,560
do

3329
02:15:39,430 --> 02:15:37,920
you know people in the middle east think

3330
02:15:41,910 --> 02:15:39,440
that there's somehow

3331
02:15:43,270 --> 02:15:41,920
a gin influence on american foreign

3332
02:15:45,589 --> 02:15:43,280
policy there

3333
02:15:48,310 --> 02:15:45,599
well they do believe that jinn have

3334
02:15:51,990 --> 02:15:48,320
taken control over certain villages and

3335
02:15:54,310 --> 02:15:52,000
towns in syria and iraq and in omen and

3336
02:15:57,430 --> 02:15:54,320
some of the other arab countries and

3337
02:15:59,669 --> 02:15:57,440
they also believe that certain jinn

3338
02:16:02,470 --> 02:15:59,679
have made deals

3339
02:16:06,310 --> 02:16:02,480
three wishes so to speak with certain

3340
02:16:09,350 --> 02:16:06,320
political leaders and also certain um

3341
02:16:11,189 --> 02:16:09,360
rebel leaders rabble rousers

3342
02:16:13,589 --> 02:16:11,199
religious leaders

3343
02:16:16,390 --> 02:16:13,599
to give them power and to manipulate

3344
02:16:20,069 --> 02:16:16,400
situations so they can get into power

3345
02:16:22,790 --> 02:16:20,079
and of course for what they want is the

3346
02:16:25,189 --> 02:16:22,800
human race to be in total discord so

3347
02:16:27,910 --> 02:16:25,199
they can make it easier for them to come

3348
02:16:29,830 --> 02:16:27,920
into our world and take control so you

3349
02:16:31,350 --> 02:16:29,840
have all of these stories

3350
02:16:33,830 --> 02:16:31,360
and then you have all of these other

3351
02:16:35,509 --> 02:16:33,840
strange stories about jin entering our

3352
02:16:37,910 --> 02:16:35,519
dimension and the government trying to

3353
02:16:40,709 --> 02:16:37,920
capture one the governments of the world

3354
02:16:42,950 --> 02:16:40,719
so i mean what is really going on i mean

3355
02:16:44,870 --> 02:16:42,960
is the you is this a psychosis of the

3356
02:16:46,790 --> 02:16:44,880
21st century that we have to blame it

3357
02:16:49,190 --> 02:16:46,800
out all our problems on dimensional

3358
02:16:52,389 --> 02:16:49,200
beings or are these dimensional beings

3359
02:16:53,990 --> 02:16:52,399
really existing and causing all this and

3360
02:16:55,750 --> 02:16:54,000
it seems that all of this is happening

3361
02:16:57,349 --> 02:16:55,760
in the middle east every time we look at

3362
02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:57,359
another country is breaking out with

3363
02:17:01,429 --> 02:16:58,719
riots

3364
02:17:04,309 --> 02:17:01,439
and uh this is exactly the way

3365
02:17:07,030 --> 02:17:04,319
i heard the gin would operate david

3366
02:17:09,110 --> 02:17:07,040
certain leaders and give them power

3367
02:17:11,349 --> 02:17:09,120
in order to do this so they can gain

3368
02:17:13,349 --> 02:17:11,359
control but in the end the gin wants his

3369
02:17:14,790 --> 02:17:13,359
pain and then who knows what that's

3370
02:17:15,509 --> 02:17:14,800
going to be it's not going to be good

3371
02:17:17,429 --> 02:17:15,519
for

3372
02:17:20,309 --> 02:17:17,439
the person they need to deal with or the

3373
02:17:21,990 --> 02:17:20,319
human race but if the gin is so powerful

3374
02:17:24,150 --> 02:17:22,000
and i don't really understand this to

3375
02:17:26,469 --> 02:17:24,160
this day and certainly listening to this

3376
02:17:28,790 --> 02:17:26,479
discussion they're so powerful why do

3377
02:17:31,110 --> 02:17:28,800
they need to work behind the scenes

3378
02:17:33,110 --> 02:17:31,120
where can't they just break through the

3379
02:17:35,910 --> 02:17:33,120
dimensional barrier and just take us

3380
02:17:37,669 --> 02:17:35,920
over well because first of all it's not

3381
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:37,679
all the gym there is a there is a

3382
02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:39,120
certain number of gin that want to

3383
02:17:43,349 --> 02:17:41,519
coexist with the human race and they're

3384
02:17:46,230 --> 02:17:43,359
waiting for the time for it to happen

3385
02:17:48,309 --> 02:17:46,240
there is a a smaller number of gin

3386
02:17:50,790 --> 02:17:48,319
almost terrorists like jin

3387
02:17:55,030 --> 02:17:50,800
i understand the point of the terrorists

3388
02:17:59,030 --> 02:17:56,629
i understand that i understand that we

3389
02:18:01,910 --> 02:17:59,040
have good gin bad gin from what you said

3390
02:18:04,309 --> 02:18:01,920
before the question here is though

3391
02:18:06,549 --> 02:18:04,319
the factions that are evil are they

3392
02:18:08,870 --> 02:18:06,559
being kept under control by the

3393
02:18:11,110 --> 02:18:08,880
authorities by the good gin or what

3394
02:18:13,990 --> 02:18:11,120
they're probably checked from time to

3395
02:18:15,830 --> 02:18:14,000
time but their power is limited they

3396
02:18:18,950 --> 02:18:15,840
don't have unlimited power when they

3397
02:18:21,349 --> 02:18:18,960
expel power they have to rest just like

3398
02:18:23,030 --> 02:18:21,359
you know you going to work and or going

3399
02:18:25,030 --> 02:18:23,040
out and cutting the grass after you do

3400
02:18:26,549 --> 02:18:25,040
that you need to take a rest when they

3401
02:18:28,389 --> 02:18:26,559
expel energy

3402
02:18:32,469 --> 02:18:28,399
they have to rest and rebuild their

3403
02:18:34,309 --> 02:18:32,479
resources up and uh the human race i

3404
02:18:36,629 --> 02:18:34,319
mean our world is so involved with so

3405
02:18:38,309 --> 02:18:36,639
much technology and so many people they

3406
02:18:40,389 --> 02:18:38,319
really don't have the power just to come

3407
02:18:43,110 --> 02:18:40,399
in and wipe us all out

3408
02:18:44,950 --> 02:18:43,120
they have to do it they're coming in and

3409
02:18:46,709 --> 02:18:44,960
they're doing it through our own plus

3410
02:18:48,790 --> 02:18:46,719
they're being checked so that they don't

3411
02:18:51,190 --> 02:18:48,800
have limitless power but they have more

3412
02:18:52,389 --> 02:18:51,200
power than human beings do and they do

3413
02:18:55,429 --> 02:18:52,399
have power

3414
02:18:57,190 --> 02:18:55,439
but it's it has a limit to it okay now

3415
02:18:59,589 --> 02:18:57,200
the good jinn the ones who want to

3416
02:19:01,589 --> 02:18:59,599
coexist with humans

3417
02:19:03,110 --> 02:19:01,599
where do we reach the point where that

3418
02:19:06,070 --> 02:19:03,120
can happen do we have to get all the

3419
02:19:08,469 --> 02:19:06,080
tribes the warring tribes on this planet

3420
02:19:10,870 --> 02:19:08,479
to be a little bit more cooperative

3421
02:19:13,509 --> 02:19:10,880
before that happens what i would think

3422
02:19:16,469 --> 02:19:13,519
that uh they're waiting for a point see

3423
02:19:19,110 --> 02:19:16,479
uh according to the ancient beliefs

3424
02:19:21,509 --> 02:19:19,120
jinn are afraid of humans and humans

3425
02:19:23,589 --> 02:19:21,519
were afraid of jinn one of the things

3426
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:23,599
they're afraid of is that human beings

3427
02:19:29,509 --> 02:19:25,840
are very violent and they're

3428
02:19:32,389 --> 02:19:29,519
unpredictable and um the jinns see this

3429
02:19:36,150 --> 02:19:32,399
aggression as sooner or later

3430
02:19:39,030 --> 02:19:36,160
human beings enslaving them again and um

3431
02:19:41,110 --> 02:19:39,040
so there's there's a distrust between

3432
02:19:43,429 --> 02:19:41,120
humans and jinn and of course they're

3433
02:19:45,990 --> 02:19:43,439
lost in our legends so no people don't

3434
02:19:47,750 --> 02:19:46,000
think about them anymore but most jinns

3435
02:19:50,469 --> 02:19:47,760
still remember humans and they still

3436
02:19:52,790 --> 02:19:50,479
distrust them but you have to remember

3437
02:19:55,429 --> 02:19:52,800
there are probably also many jinn who

3438
02:19:57,910 --> 02:19:55,439
have never encountered humans to them

3439
02:19:59,429 --> 02:19:57,920
humans are just a legend

3440
02:20:00,790 --> 02:19:59,439
they don't believe in us and we don't

3441
02:20:08,790 --> 02:20:00,800
believe it yeah we don't believe in that

3442
02:20:13,030 --> 02:20:10,550
yeah go ahead phil sorry uh we cut you

3443
02:20:14,710 --> 02:20:13,040
off there guys you're finishing it up

3444
02:20:16,950 --> 02:20:14,720
yeah it's like a double-edged sword you

3445
02:20:19,429 --> 02:20:16,960
know i mean you know you have to take

3446
02:20:20,950 --> 02:20:19,439
into account that you know the psyche of

3447
02:20:23,190 --> 02:20:20,960
the human race and the psyche of the

3448
02:20:24,950 --> 02:20:23,200
gender both free-willed beings

3449
02:20:26,950 --> 02:20:24,960
throughout the ages they have grown this

3450
02:20:28,309 --> 02:20:26,960
distrust for each other

3451
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:28,319
and um

3452
02:20:32,550 --> 02:20:31,120
and there is a faction of jinn

3453
02:20:34,230 --> 02:20:32,560
i really don't call them the good

3454
02:20:36,309 --> 02:20:34,240
they're the indifferent they're hoping

3455
02:20:37,910 --> 02:20:36,319
one day that they can coexist with human

3456
02:20:38,790 --> 02:20:37,920
beings once again

3457
02:20:42,790 --> 02:20:38,800
and

3458
02:20:45,190 --> 02:20:42,800
number of gin that would destroy them i

3459
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:45,200
mean if if a certain number of gin came

3460
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:46,720
into our world with their power and

3461
02:20:49,510 --> 02:20:48,160
everything don't you think that certain

3462
02:20:51,590 --> 02:20:49,520
governments of the world would try to

3463
02:20:54,550 --> 02:20:51,600
exploit them

3464
02:20:57,190 --> 02:20:54,560
yeah i mean that they fear us

3465
02:20:59,910 --> 02:20:57,200
well that leads me to to philip dean's

3466
02:21:01,110 --> 02:20:59,920
question and we kind of touched on this

3467
02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:01,120
before

3468
02:21:05,750 --> 02:21:03,600
but uh could you ask phil if he thinks

3469
02:21:08,389 --> 02:21:05,760
the military units assigned to track or

3470
02:21:09,910 --> 02:21:08,399
capture the gin have had any success in

3471
02:21:10,790 --> 02:21:09,920
other words have they ever captured a

3472
02:21:13,750 --> 02:21:10,800
gin

3473
02:21:15,190 --> 02:21:13,760
also is this just confined to

3474
02:21:16,630 --> 02:21:15,200
uh us

3475
02:21:19,190 --> 02:21:16,640
activity i think you answered that

3476
02:21:21,510 --> 02:21:19,200
before by saying that the saudis were

3477
02:21:23,110 --> 02:21:21,520
were implicated in in

3478
02:21:25,190 --> 02:21:23,120
at least those two instances that you

3479
02:21:27,429 --> 02:21:25,200
cited about about

3480
02:21:29,910 --> 02:21:27,439
military units showing up uh

3481
02:21:31,750 --> 02:21:29,920
uh during a gin sighting uh but do you

3482
02:21:34,070 --> 02:21:31,760
think that there has been any success in

3483
02:21:36,630 --> 02:21:34,080
this regard and and what would be the

3484
02:21:38,550 --> 02:21:36,640
motivation do you think for uh the u.s

3485
02:21:40,550 --> 02:21:38,560
to be going over to the middle east uh

3486
02:21:42,070 --> 02:21:40,560
trying to capture it jen

3487
02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:42,080
i just want to point out before we get

3488
02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:44,560
started here that we're about to break

3489
02:21:49,110 --> 02:21:46,800
for our final break for the sessions to

3490
02:21:50,550 --> 02:21:49,120
hold that answer about whether we have

3491
02:21:52,550 --> 02:21:50,560
captured a gin

3492
02:21:54,389 --> 02:21:52,560
and where would they be

3493
02:21:56,870 --> 02:21:54,399
are they being kept on ice is it kind of

3494
02:21:59,190 --> 02:21:56,880
like the legends of roswell gets to be

3495
02:22:00,469 --> 02:21:59,200
very interesting the forums we keep

3496
02:22:02,830 --> 02:22:00,479
mentioning on the show where we're

3497
02:22:04,389 --> 02:22:02,840
asking all those questions that's

3498
02:22:05,710 --> 02:22:04,399
forum.powercast.com

3499
02:22:07,910 --> 02:22:05,720
that's

3500
02:22:10,230 --> 02:22:07,920
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3501
02:22:12,710 --> 02:22:10,240
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3503
02:22:17,429 --> 02:22:14,960
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3505
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:18,880
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3506
02:22:21,750 --> 02:22:20,000
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3507
02:22:23,990 --> 02:22:21,760
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3508
02:22:27,429 --> 02:22:24,000
phil and brogno joining us rosemary

3509
02:22:29,670 --> 02:22:27,439
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3510
02:22:35,020 --> 02:22:29,680
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this is hilly rose and i hope that you

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do listen to the paracast because you

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will learn a great deal about the

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we have one more segment with philip

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imbrogno rosemary ellen guyley the

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vengeful gin is our topic i'm gene

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steinberg the co-host is chris o'brien

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so phil we left that question on the

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table if we captured a gin when i was in

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the middle east in saudi arabia and i

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was at the dinner table with a member of

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the royal family my cousin

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i asked him and he told me of the

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operation of you know trying to cash the

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gin capture gin the gate to take out i

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02:27:39,429 --> 02:27:36,560
asked him

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02:27:42,230 --> 02:27:39,439
has a jin ever been captured and he said

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he did not know because the matter is of

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the highest security

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02:27:48,070 --> 02:27:46,640
and he wouldn't be privileged to that

3639
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information

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02:27:53,990 --> 02:27:50,960
so i have to go with that i don't know

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02:27:56,790 --> 02:27:54,000
if they actually captured one or not but

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02:27:58,389 --> 02:27:56,800
you do hear rumors about let's say our

3643
02:28:00,150 --> 02:27:58,399
government and other governments are the

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02:28:03,670 --> 02:28:00,160
world's main powers

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making deals with you know certain type

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of entities who are

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dimensional in nature and so on so fast

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02:28:14,469 --> 02:28:12,960
it may be possible that you know the

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governments of the western governments

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02:28:17,510 --> 02:28:16,000
of the world some leaders of the world

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02:28:19,750 --> 02:28:17,520
have made deals with them and have

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02:28:21,349 --> 02:28:19,760
communication with them but whether or

3653
02:28:24,389 --> 02:28:21,359
not they've actually captured one and

3654
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have one on ice i couldn't tell you

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02:28:29,429 --> 02:28:26,479
like a foster bargain

3656
02:28:33,990 --> 02:28:29,439
it's probably as elusive as the alleged

3657
02:28:36,230 --> 02:28:34,000
et's that we've supposedly captured yeah

3658
02:28:38,550 --> 02:28:36,240
good point well uh i have another

3659
02:28:41,990 --> 02:28:38,560
question here i i happen to post a very

3660
02:28:43,830 --> 02:28:42,000
interesting article written by um

3661
02:28:46,710 --> 02:28:43,840
kind of a bit of a rabble-rouser in the

3662
02:28:49,270 --> 02:28:46,720
ufo field anthony bergalia

3663
02:28:52,070 --> 02:28:49,280
and the last question that i have here

3664
02:28:53,910 --> 02:28:52,080
is from jt and he says given phil's

3665
02:28:55,830 --> 02:28:53,920
military background i'd be interested to

3666
02:28:58,309 --> 02:28:55,840
hear his thoughts and insights on the

3667
02:29:00,710 --> 02:28:58,319
national reconnaissance office uh

3668
02:29:01,670 --> 02:29:00,720
bragalia's article goes into

3669
02:29:03,429 --> 02:29:01,680
some

3670
02:29:06,550 --> 02:29:03,439
pretty interesting uh

3671
02:29:09,429 --> 02:29:06,560
questions about uh you know who actually

3672
02:29:12,870 --> 02:29:09,439
has been monitoring ufo activity on this

3673
02:29:14,309 --> 02:29:12,880
planet of course the nro would be

3674
02:29:16,950 --> 02:29:14,319
kind of the

3675
02:29:18,950 --> 02:29:16,960
the hidden agency that might be sitting

3676
02:29:21,190 --> 02:29:18,960
on quite a wealth of data what do you

3677
02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:21,200
know about the nro and what do you think

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02:29:24,870 --> 02:29:22,960
phil do you think they've uh

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they've got some smoking gun evidence i

3680
02:29:29,270 --> 02:29:26,399
don't know you have to remember my

3681
02:29:31,190 --> 02:29:29,280
military experience was was you know

3682
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somewhat limited to operations in

3683
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cambodia during the vietnam war so

3684
02:29:39,510 --> 02:29:37,439
i never really came across ufo documents

3685
02:29:41,510 --> 02:29:39,520
or ufo information

3686
02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:41,520
in that nature but during my

3687
02:29:47,190 --> 02:29:44,560
investigations as a ufo investigator

3688
02:29:49,110 --> 02:29:47,200
especially during the hudson valley case

3689
02:29:51,110 --> 02:29:49,120
i was contacted by the air force

3690
02:29:52,790 --> 02:29:51,120
directly regarding the sightings and i

3691
02:29:55,110 --> 02:29:52,800
was the first civilian contacted

3692
02:29:56,870 --> 02:29:55,120
directly by the air force since project

3693
02:29:59,990 --> 02:29:56,880
blue book closed down

3694
02:30:01,830 --> 02:30:00,000
so i imagine and and and the people who

3695
02:30:03,990 --> 02:30:01,840
contacted me were just obviously getting

3696
02:30:06,309 --> 02:30:04,000
information for somebody else they were

3697
02:30:08,389 --> 02:30:06,319
front for somebody else so

3698
02:30:09,990 --> 02:30:08,399
you know i see a certain

3699
02:30:12,150 --> 02:30:10,000
aspect of the government and the

3700
02:30:13,510 --> 02:30:12,160
government's a big word but there are

3701
02:30:16,150 --> 02:30:13,520
probably

3702
02:30:17,110 --> 02:30:16,160
very very you know small units

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02:30:22,469 --> 02:30:17,120
of

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government uh collecting information on

3705
02:30:27,910 --> 02:30:24,640
ufos uh that that's obvious from the

3706
02:30:31,190 --> 02:30:27,920
contacts that i've had over the years

3707
02:30:32,469 --> 02:30:31,200
with uh people from the nsa and the cia

3708
02:30:34,630 --> 02:30:32,479
and so on

3709
02:30:36,950 --> 02:30:34,640
and uh some of my investigations that

3710
02:30:39,590 --> 02:30:36,960
i've run into brick walls and actually

3711
02:30:41,510 --> 02:30:39,600
uh been threatened at times

3712
02:30:43,190 --> 02:30:41,520
telling me to back off especially when i

3713
02:30:45,750 --> 02:30:43,200
was investigating the sightings at the

3714
02:30:47,110 --> 02:30:45,760
indian point nuclear reactor in buchanan

3715
02:30:49,750 --> 02:30:47,120
in new york where the sightings were

3716
02:30:50,790 --> 02:30:49,760
verified i was told to back down so

3717
02:30:53,830 --> 02:30:50,800
there are

3718
02:30:56,550 --> 02:30:53,840
very strong arms in in the united states

3719
02:30:58,469 --> 02:30:56,560
government that are monitoring this okay

3720
02:31:01,429 --> 02:30:58,479
well that's it for uh my questions gene

3721
02:31:03,349 --> 02:31:01,439
and in terms of our forum uh uh posters

3722
02:31:06,630 --> 02:31:03,359
well i'm gonna ask you folks because we

3723
02:31:08,389 --> 02:31:06,640
have a few minutes left rosemary or phil

3724
02:31:09,750 --> 02:31:08,399
either one of you can answer this

3725
02:31:10,790 --> 02:31:09,760
question which is

3726
02:31:12,870 --> 02:31:10,800
where

3727
02:31:15,830 --> 02:31:12,880
should we go in terms of scientific

3728
02:31:17,990 --> 02:31:15,840
investigation to try to

3729
02:31:20,550 --> 02:31:18,000
get more information about this because

3730
02:31:22,630 --> 02:31:20,560
obviously if we have creatures from

3731
02:31:25,110 --> 02:31:22,640
another dimension who want to take over

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02:31:27,670 --> 02:31:25,120
want to interact with us and do us harm

3733
02:31:30,469 --> 02:31:27,680
we've got to do something to combat that

3734
02:31:32,070 --> 02:31:30,479
so rosemary phil who wants to answer

3735
02:31:34,630 --> 02:31:32,080
that what do we do

3736
02:31:36,630 --> 02:31:34,640
well one thing that we can do and phil

3737
02:31:38,710 --> 02:31:36,640
can i address this from a scientific

3738
02:31:40,710 --> 02:31:38,720
perspective first of all we have to have

3739
02:31:42,630 --> 02:31:40,720
information and knowledge which is one

3740
02:31:46,150 --> 02:31:42,640
of the reasons why we wrote the book to

3741
02:31:49,590 --> 02:31:46,160
inform people what we think is going on

3742
02:31:50,950 --> 02:31:49,600
and to make people aware of uh the fact

3743
02:31:52,550 --> 02:31:50,960
that

3744
02:31:54,630 --> 02:31:52,560
we are

3745
02:31:56,389 --> 02:31:54,640
engaging with entities

3746
02:31:58,870 --> 02:31:56,399
and they may not be who

3747
02:32:01,750 --> 02:31:58,880
we think they are

3748
02:32:02,550 --> 02:32:01,760
we have been working on some equipment

3749
02:32:04,870 --> 02:32:02,560
that

3750
02:32:07,990 --> 02:32:04,880
phil has been very innovative with in

3751
02:32:10,070 --> 02:32:08,000
developing in terms of

3752
02:32:11,910 --> 02:32:10,080
trying to identify the places where

3753
02:32:14,469 --> 02:32:11,920
these entities are most likely to

3754
02:32:16,389 --> 02:32:14,479
manifest and how we can communicate with

3755
02:32:17,349 --> 02:32:16,399
them

3756
02:32:19,190 --> 02:32:17,359
and

3757
02:32:21,349 --> 02:32:19,200
we need to experiment with different

3758
02:32:22,870 --> 02:32:21,359
ways for

3759
02:32:24,630 --> 02:32:22,880
interacting with them and also

3760
02:32:26,550 --> 02:32:24,640
preventing problems

3761
02:32:27,750 --> 02:32:26,560
in the cases we've

3762
02:32:30,469 --> 02:32:27,760
looked into

3763
02:32:32,630 --> 02:32:30,479
there is no one universal remedy people

3764
02:32:34,550 --> 02:32:32,640
have to experiment with a variety of

3765
02:32:36,830 --> 02:32:34,560
things to find out what is effective for

3766
02:32:39,590 --> 02:32:36,840
them and that may have to do with

3767
02:32:42,309 --> 02:32:39,600
the the nature of their consciousness

3768
02:32:44,469 --> 02:32:42,319
the situation and the power and

3769
02:32:47,349 --> 02:32:44,479
objectives of the gin they're

3770
02:32:49,270 --> 02:32:47,359
interacting with bill do you want to uh

3771
02:32:51,349 --> 02:32:49,280
yeah well you know the the first thing

3772
02:32:53,190 --> 02:32:51,359
we have to do is identify where they're

3773
02:32:55,190 --> 02:32:53,200
coming in because they're hidden

3774
02:32:56,469 --> 02:32:55,200
and when you have a portal open up a

3775
02:32:58,870 --> 02:32:56,479
dimensional port you're gonna have a

3776
02:33:00,790 --> 02:32:58,880
flood of elementary particles coming in

3777
02:33:02,950 --> 02:33:00,800
these particles interact with matter in

3778
02:33:04,550 --> 02:33:02,960
our universe and devices can be

3779
02:33:07,030 --> 02:33:04,560
constructed to detect as a matter of

3780
02:33:09,190 --> 02:33:07,040
fact we already got prototypes for it

3781
02:33:10,389 --> 02:33:09,200
um it's a long story but it's it's in

3782
02:33:12,790 --> 02:33:10,399
the new book

3783
02:33:14,870 --> 02:33:12,800
and uh it's quite promising right now

3784
02:33:17,110 --> 02:33:14,880
it's a long scientific explanation but

3785
02:33:20,070 --> 02:33:17,120
it has to do with the interaction

3786
02:33:23,270 --> 02:33:20,080
of elementary particles on electrons in

3787
02:33:25,590 --> 02:33:23,280
in our reality to produce a a pattern

3788
02:33:28,550 --> 02:33:25,600
showing where the portal is opening up

3789
02:33:30,790 --> 02:33:28,560
and and this is not all magic and all

3790
02:33:32,230 --> 02:33:30,800
wow wonderland this is all you know

3791
02:33:34,469 --> 02:33:32,240
based on

3792
02:33:37,110 --> 02:33:34,479
theoretical physics modern theoretical

3793
02:33:38,870 --> 02:33:37,120
physics and work that i've been doing up

3794
02:33:40,950 --> 02:33:38,880
at mit

3795
02:33:43,429 --> 02:33:40,960
yeah there was a question here actually

3796
02:33:45,510 --> 02:33:43,439
that i i missed and it was

3797
02:33:47,110 --> 02:33:45,520
again from trained observer asked phil

3798
02:33:49,750 --> 02:33:47,120
to elaborate on some of the technical

3799
02:33:51,830 --> 02:33:49,760
aspects of his instrumentation project

3800
02:33:53,750 --> 02:33:51,840
and what you're trying to detect and how

3801
02:33:56,070 --> 02:33:53,760
and it sounds like this will be a

3802
02:33:59,429 --> 02:33:56,080
perfect subject for when you guys uh

3803
02:34:01,190 --> 02:33:59,439
come back for your next visit uh we can

3804
02:34:03,590 --> 02:34:01,200
talk about uh

3805
02:34:05,349 --> 02:34:03,600
some of these attempts uh at designing

3806
02:34:07,670 --> 02:34:05,359
instrumentation some of the protocols

3807
02:34:10,230 --> 02:34:07,680
that you would put in place and also i

3808
02:34:13,030 --> 02:34:10,240
must mention that i'm looking forward to

3809
02:34:16,070 --> 02:34:13,040
uh doing a field trip with rosemary up

3810
02:34:18,389 --> 02:34:16,080
to the san luis valley here this spring

3811
02:34:19,590 --> 02:34:18,399
to a couple of spots and i've uh

3812
02:34:22,950 --> 02:34:19,600
i think i've

3813
02:34:27,349 --> 02:34:24,630
i think

3814
02:34:30,309 --> 02:34:27,359
by a loose definition a location

3815
02:34:31,510 --> 02:34:30,319
specific portal spot if you will

3816
02:34:33,190 --> 02:34:31,520
wherever

3817
02:34:35,670 --> 02:34:33,200
chris fast question does that mean we'll

3818
02:34:38,309 --> 02:34:35,680
have an on the scene

3819
02:34:40,790 --> 02:34:38,319
power cast episode

3820
02:34:42,469 --> 02:34:40,800
it's it's up to rosemary and whether i

3821
02:34:43,349 --> 02:34:42,479
can uh get the time off it would be

3822
02:34:44,950 --> 02:34:43,359
great

3823
02:34:47,670 --> 02:34:44,960
you know i'm so excited about this

3824
02:34:50,230 --> 02:34:47,680
because uh chris your work in the san

3825
02:34:51,910 --> 02:34:50,240
luis valley has been so intriguing to me

3826
02:34:54,389 --> 02:34:51,920
it's a place i wanted to wanted to

3827
02:34:55,830 --> 02:34:54,399
return to to do more research and to be

3828
02:34:57,590 --> 02:34:55,840
able to do that

3829
02:34:59,910 --> 02:34:57,600
with you

3830
02:35:04,070 --> 02:34:59,920
in all these hot spots and i think this

3831
02:35:06,389 --> 02:35:04,080
fits the profile of a gin area too

3832
02:35:08,710 --> 02:35:06,399
i think it's just going to be great so i

3833
02:35:10,950 --> 02:35:08,720
i would definitely be up for uh seeing

3834
02:35:12,950 --> 02:35:10,960
what we could do show wise on that we're

3835
02:35:15,590 --> 02:35:12,960
just about out of time guys

3836
02:35:18,550 --> 02:35:15,600
so we'll be updating our listeners

3837
02:35:20,710 --> 02:35:18,560
as to how this trip manifests itself

3838
02:35:23,349 --> 02:35:20,720
what kind of show we can set up

3839
02:35:29,750 --> 02:35:23,359
and whether i'll be talking to chris and

3840
02:35:36,150 --> 02:35:33,030
they'll go into the dimensional warp

3841
02:35:38,230 --> 02:35:36,160
you know the window area the anomaly

3842
02:35:41,349 --> 02:35:38,240
whatever rosemary ellen guyley where can

3843
02:35:43,590 --> 02:35:41,359
we find more of the things you do

3844
02:35:45,190 --> 02:35:43,600
two websites my main website is

3845
02:35:49,349 --> 02:35:45,200
visionaryliving.com

3846
02:35:53,990 --> 02:35:51,429
and then phil and i have set up a brand

3847
02:35:57,910 --> 02:35:54,000
new website called gen universe and

3848
02:36:03,349 --> 02:36:01,510
as a a place not only to publicize the

3849
02:36:05,910 --> 02:36:03,359
book but to set up

3850
02:36:08,950 --> 02:36:05,920
some information and education about the

3851
02:36:11,590 --> 02:36:08,960
gin and we invite reader comments and

3852
02:36:13,590 --> 02:36:11,600
reader experiences that's a great way

3853
02:36:15,670 --> 02:36:13,600
for people to

3854
02:36:18,389 --> 02:36:15,680
learn what's going on and to validate

3855
02:36:20,550 --> 02:36:18,399
their own experiences and re-evaluate

3856
02:36:22,230 --> 02:36:20,560
them from the standpoint of gin next

3857
02:36:24,230 --> 02:36:22,240
week we'll have benjamin radford we'll

3858
02:36:27,670 --> 02:36:24,240
be talking on the power cast about the

3859
02:36:29,830 --> 02:36:27,680
chupacabra real or fantasy on a future

3860
02:36:32,389 --> 02:36:29,840
episode we'll be featuring none other

3861
02:36:34,469 --> 02:36:32,399
than jesse ventura chris o'brien where

3862
02:36:35,870 --> 02:36:34,479
do we find more of your stuff well i'm

3863
02:36:37,910 --> 02:36:35,880
at the forum

3864
02:36:38,990 --> 02:36:37,920
forum.theparacast.com and also i have a

3865
02:36:40,870 --> 02:36:39,000
website

3866
02:36:42,870 --> 02:36:40,880
ourstrangeplanet.com and i want to thank

3867
02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:42,880
rosemary and phil for being on the show

3868
02:36:46,790 --> 02:36:45,280
this has been very uh enlightening i

3869
02:36:48,630 --> 02:36:46,800
think it's going to stimulate a lot of

3870
02:36:50,469 --> 02:36:48,640
conversation on our forums and we look

3871
02:36:52,150 --> 02:36:50,479
forward to having you guys back thank

3872
02:36:54,230 --> 02:36:52,160
you thank you very much it's been a

3873
02:37:02,710 --> 02:36:54,240
pleasure to be with you both tonight a

3874
02:37:07,030 --> 02:37:04,469
is a copyrighted presentation of making

3875
02:37:09,429 --> 02:37:07,040
the impossible incorporated tune in next

3876
02:37:10,680 --> 02:37:09,439
week for a new adventure in